AJ s Chin. Question?

Joshua does have chin problems...that much is clear. Anyone that has to run for 12 rounds against a small overweight ruiz is protecting something after an embarrasing defeat getting put over 4 times from probably the worst looking heavyweight champion ever. They come out and run. The problem will come when the opponents bigger than ruiz that he cant run from. Takam/povetkin too small. Klitchko had him all over the place. Whyte had him doing the chicken dance. Ruiz collapsed him then put him over a further 3 times.

Parker hardly landed. Outside of that hes not really fought anyone of note.

I,ll tell you exactly what tells me the people in the know know hes got problems. Joshuas a powerhouse. Big/strong...great length....very few will be able to stand up to him. Decent boxing fundamentals. Can hurt anyone. And yet his gameplan against a small overweight ruiz was too run for his life and box on the backfoot. Somethings not right with that.

With the strengths joshua has he should be breaking anyone down in that division. He should be fighting on the front foot. He hss every single thing going for it and yet...he fights on the back foot running. Its like watching sonny liston running away. It got him the win. Regardless tho...if joshua walked into your gym today...and you said perfect we,ll get him moving on the backfoot boxing from the outside running away....you,d be thought of as being pretty useless.

The reason they have to do it tho is because they know his chin will struggle to hold up because its not good. Ruiz hasnt even beat a single name outside of joshua. Can anyone even tell me his best win outside of it.

Good luck to him...i like joshua. But they need to keep him away from punchers....or there will be another big shock along the way.

Then his next line up of fights is pulev...usyk...fury. tells you what you need to know.

 

If I was Joshua I'd rather fight Wilder than Usyk any day. Wilder has nothing that Joshua hasn't seen before.

So Wilder has an even worse chin than Joshua? Is that where this is leading?

 

That's right yeah. Like walking a drunk back to his door. Frank was very lucky that the bell saved him.

 

Na. Wilders chin is better. He just couldnt deal with the size of fury. That and the skills of fury.

Fury hurt wilder but wilders faculties remained intact. If fury hurts joshua his faculties will be all over the place like they we,re against whyte....klitchko and ruiz. We,ve seen chicken dances from wilder before but he recovered quickly...joshua on the otherhand hasnt.

Joshua will be able to deal with furys size better. It wasnt wilders chin that let him down it was his size and skillset.

 

If Joshua continues to fight like that going forward I'll concede that there's something to what you're saying. It'll be more along the lines of his spirit being broken than anything physical though.

So an ATG puncher in Wlad, Whyte (hardest left hook in the division), Povetkin (crispest left hook in the division, all round dangerous puncher) plus solid punchers like Takam, Ruiz and Parker. That's a pretty big who's who of not just the best punchers but the best HWs in the division.

He also fought a ton of heavy handed guys in the amateurs moving up, so he's clearly not scared to get in the ring with anyone.

Like I said above, if he continues to fight that way I'll agree with you. Sometimes you just can't afford to take any chances, and Joshua couldn't drop the ball a second time or his career would have been over.

Who's Sanders best win outside of Wlad? McCall's best win outside of Lewis?

Ruiz is clearly a dangerous puncher if he can land on you. The speed and crispness of his shots should tell you that much.

That he wants to fight the best in the division?

 

Weird.

 

So Wilder's chin is better but Joshua will be more able to hold up to Fury's shots because the weight disparity isn't as great? WTF does that even mean? Either Joshua's chin is better or it's not, in which case he'll do even worse against Fury if he gets caught with the same type of shots.

Here's what we know of Wilder. The one time he got knocked down in a high profile fight he couldn't get back into the fight and ended up getting stopped. The one time he got seriously rocked he needed the end of the round and some extra time to recover. Not much to go on to claim anything that positive about his punch resistance really.

Wilder's six seven 230lbs. Where's the lack of size here?

 

I don’t recall Povetkin ever hurting him. He knocked him off balance. Looked totally fine afterwards and was still on strong legs. AJ can take a decent shot. He was taking the same hooks Povetkin sparked price with. Joshua always struggles with smaller guys that’s why Povetkin and Ruiz had success.

 

Wilder does not have a better chin than Joshua. If he did he wouldn’t have been put on roller skates by Eric ****ing Molina. Joshua would have laughed that shot off. Wilder never would have gotten up from Wlad’s right hand. NEVER. Joshua also ate Wlad’s left hook multiple time’s in their fight and Wilder was shook and nearly stopped when Ortiz landed a counter right hook. Ortiz isn’t half the puncher Wlad was.

 

Shakey chin and bad recovery

 

No to the first part. He takes a decent shot. Recovery isn’t great.

 

Joshuas chin reacts worse to punches than wilders does its not rocket science. Wilder has been rocked by lesser guys...hes been basically stopped by fury....but wilder recovers better and quicker than joshua does. Joshuas recoveries terrible. You can kid on its not....but we,ve seen enough evidence to suggest the contrary.

Wilder not only recovered quicker...his faculties remained intact shortly afterwards. On the otherhand....joshuas took rounds to recover from shots. His stamina and power go downhill for long stretches. Hes starts fighting like hes fighting in quicksand for long stretches.

Wilder got a beatdown from fury. Just got beat by the better man but his chin never really let him down. His mind was still sharp...he just got beat up. Wasnt a chin issue. On the otherhand joshua lowered his hands against whyte...never looked like he was fully there against ruiz after being hurt in the 3rd round and fought in quicksand against klitchko for about 4 rounds.

Furys been put over by lesser guys...but his chins still better than joshuas. Same argument your making regarding wilder being hurt by lesser guys.

You cant afford to do what joshua does at this level. Or you can but you,ll lose to lesser guys. They know the blueprint now.

Guys like joshua should be beating everyone. Madsive guy with great power. Fit. Strong. Decent to good boxing fundamentals. These guys shouldnt be getting beat down by ruiz....or need to run for 12 rounds against him. The reason he has is because his chins not good enough. He,ll be lucky or his promoter will be smart to keep him away from another embarrasing loss like ruiz. We,ve been told joshuas like nothing we,ve seen before. Only now we,re finding out hes quite beatable by only just better than average guys in whyte and ruiz.

People keep telling me his boxing fundamentals are good. Hes massive. Hes strong. He hits very hard. Trains like an animal. Eats the proper food. Got great length. Got a great coach. Got all the proper nutrition/training etc. Does all the sport science. Tell me then why ruiz way overweight was able to beat him down and make him run for his life the second fight.

 

You say Joshua hasn't fought many punchers of note, but what punchers has Wilder fought? Wilder got rocked by Molina and Ortiz. Ruiz would probably stop him.

 

That shot Wlad landed Wilder never would have gotten up from he would have woke up in hospital. Joshua no doubt has the better chin. His chin is fine you’re grossly exaggerating.

 

That dude keeps typing out long massive paras trying to act smart when he’s wrong on all points. Even said earlier that Joshua avoided punchers for a reason. Wtf as if Wlad, Whyte and Povetkin aren’t very hard hitters.