Why isn't RJJ's victory over James Toney more highly rated

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He was a big middleweight. He could have shattered Jones jaw.
     
  2. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Revisionist history
     
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  3. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s just like Leonard and Duran ...the excuses have become facts
     
  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How well would he rehydrate with the weigh-in not hours before the fight. Jones was a lean 170+ against Bernard H
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Now there careers are over I can't see it any other way tbh.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think both are ATGs but Jones ranks higher. Toney was weight drained for this fight but Jones was so dominant that he would likely have beaten an inshape Toney.The Toney win is wideley regarded as his best win so I am not sure what this thread is all about.
     
  7. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Wash your mouth out. Guy who schools Pacquaio 3 times and then decapitates him is better than the guy who loses every round to Pacquaio. Especially when JMM beat MAB when they were the exact same age

    Also where the hell is JMM-Pac 4 not on your list? And somehow Pac-Morales is when Morales is coming off a shut out loss

    Also Pac never won any of those fights
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Styles make fights.

    I didn't include Pac v JMM 4 because I was only talking about ATG fighter's losing in their prime.

    Errrmmm what are you going on about? Morales lost to Raheem After he'd battered Pac around the ring.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Toney didn`t know how to close the distance on Roy, it was liker the 'no mas' fight in some ways.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think Jake was a better body puncher than anybody Roy fought but his punches might not have been hard enough to stop Roy.
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Nunn stoop right in front of Toney, I think Toney had problems closing the distance on movers,Johnson gave him problems also.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Big how?

    He was 5'8 with a 67" reach.

    He was easy to hit and he marked up.

    He'd never have found Roy's jaw.
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Except zduran literally quit on his stool and Toney didn't.
     
  14. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    McCallum, Hopins and Toney say hello.
     
  15. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Jake but RJ would have dazzled him with his speed. I see Jake having some sucess only in the later rounds but dropping a UD
     
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