Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

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Mendoza: Williams was actually ranked #9 by Ring Magazine when Vitali beat him.

I suggest people copy the below to get the record correct.

Vitali fought NINE opponents who were RIng Magazine ranked when he fought them. They are:

• 06/21/2003 - TKO by 6 Lennox Lewis (Champion at Heavyweight)
• 04/24/2004 - TKO8 Corrie Sanders (#3 at Heavyweight)
• 12/11/2004 - TKO8 Danny Williams (#9 at Heavyweight)
• 10/11/2008 - RTD8 Sam Peter (#2 at Heavyweight)
• 03/21/2009 - TKO9 Juan Carlos Gomez (#9 at Heavyweight)
• 09/26/2009 - RTD10 Chris Arreola (#6 at Heavyweight)
• 12/12/2009 - UD12 Kevin Johnson (#10 at Heavyweight)
• 03/19/2011 - KO1 Odlanier Solis ( #9 at Heavyweight )
• 09/10/2011 - TKO10 Tomasz Adamek (#2 at Heavyweight )

It is clear Haye and Valuev ran from chances to fight Vitali.

Vitali also has wins over a former lineal champion in Briggs, a WBO belt holders in Hide, and previously ranked contenders in Kirk Johnson, and Larry Donald. I'm not sure if Vaughn Bean was ever ranked in the top ten, but he did get two lineal title shots from Moorer and Holyfield who took him the distance. Vitali knocked Bean out, and dominated him on the score cards.

 

Wrong

April 2000

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Michael Grant
4. Ike Ibeabuchi
5. David Tua
6. Mike Tyson
7. Vitali Klitschko
8. Andrew Golota
9. Derrick Jefferson
10. Oleg Maskaev

Why are you mentioning Byrd anyway? Vitali lost that fight and then avoided the rematch.. lol!!

 

# 10 and only entered on a techinicality .

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There you go again, a guy recovering from surgery is not avoiding a rematch. Vitali came back after Wlad pounded Byrd. We have been over this.

You might be right on Byrd not being in the top ten at that point in time, but he was by April 2, 2000. So Byrd was ranked after getting very lucky in this fight, which took place in April 1, 2000.

This makes Vitali 8-1 vs ranked top ten opponents when he fought them, only losing to Lewis, a fight he took on 2 weeks notice and was leading 4-2 on all three scorecards.

 

lol. you run away everytime you are faced with the facts. Hoffman proved Vitali recovered in time to rematch Byrd. If he hadn't fought Hoffman , you'd have an argument , but he did.. So i ask , why did he chose Hoffman over Byrd?? 15th time asking? Try not to duck again.

 

You are really stupid. The Hoffman fight took place after Byrd. Where is the re-,atcha cause I've asked you for 5 times?

No one thinks Byrd would win the re-match, not even you. Byrd was lucky the injury happened, otherwise he's a clear loser.

 

I follow the facts. The facts show only a difference of 4 weeks between Hoffman and Wlad.. . All Vitali and his team had to do was schedule the fight to the same date he fought Hoffman. Easy. But that was't the plan. The plan was for Wlad to step in as his style was suited better for Byrd. This is how it played out.. Stop denying the facts.

Byrd would always make Vitali look bad because of how Vitali threw arm punches that are open to counter. He didn't want to suffer the embarrassment of hitting thin air again against a guy half his size.

If Vitali really wanted the rematch , then prove it? This is where you exit the debate.

 

You are still discussing Vitali's average resume??? You must be the most weird and delusional poster on the entire classic board:

Peter-decent win but nothing more (his best win against a faded Toney but he lost the first time too)
Corrie Sanders-decent win but nothing more (Sanders only has a fluke win over Wlad and lost by KO against Rahman, he was old and fat too)
Danny Williams -below average win (Danny was European Class; never beat anybody than a shot to pieces Tyson)
Gomez-average win (never beat anybody at heavyweight and lost by KO to a non name)
Arreola-average win (He was never a top contender, lost twice against Stiverne, only recognizable win was Mc Cline who was 40 by then and shot!) (Arreola just never proved himself to be world class)
Kevin Johnson- average win (Buba came in totally overweight) (never beat anybody and lost against his other notable opponent against Ruiz)
Solis-below average win (Solis a nobody, never beat anybody) (I think he was injured too)
Adamek-Come on now

They were ranked but the era was weak. And do not forget his losses against the best 2 opponents he foughts. Vitali is not an ATG Top 15 in my book.

 

No he didn't. Not facing doesn't equate to avoiding. Most of them avoided him or turned the fight down or faced Wlad instead. I have already posted an article showing you Vitali wanted a Haye fight and Haye did not. Povetkin was offered Klitschko fights multiple times. Those are the best 2 fighters on the list and the only ones who really stood a chance. Fury wasn't primed during this period.

Some of the names are a bit ridiculous. Ruiz and Byrd were more than happy to defend their titles under Don King's umbrella and wanted no part of unification. They had to pay Byrd huge money to take the Wlad rematch.

They were talking about a Tyson fight IIRC but Danny Williams derailed it so he fights him instead.

You've included Maskeev who got ko'd by Kirk Johnson and Sam Peter 2 fighters he faced and beat

 

The above has no bearing on the point I made.

You made a point. I made a point. That's that.
I don't think there is any need to continue a back and forth on this one.

 

I have no idea what you are talking about. . Vitali won Euro title against Mario Schiesser

^^ What sort of madness is this?

 

The sort of madness that leads nowhere constructive.

 

Are you dumb or what? All of these fights the German managed fighters lost clearly. It is disgusting that you support these corrupt processes over there which had been going on for years. You might have been part of the whole thing

 

Sources for saying they avoided him please?
Who fighters subsequently faced and were beaten by is totally irrelevant and you know it!
You're basically apologising for a **** reign.

 

I was ringside for the Cooper v Mildenberger fight .Mildenberger, seeing he had no chance of winning , began to use his head,It was a justified dsq. As usual you don't know WTF you are talking about!
You are a certified CRETIN!