On Pacquiao Marquez I decision

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    We here all the time that Pac won this fight he was the aggressor. He was robbed by the judge who made a scoring error. On the contrary we here all the time Marquez won this fight, he was robbed. Marquez landed the cleaner punches and showed more ring generalship.

    I mean you can make an argument for either case. In fact two judges seemed to smoking some crack. One had it wide for Pac. And another had it wide for Marquez. Both gave fighters rounds that were hard to see how you could do so. And then the 3rd judge had a it draw.

    It was one of the greatest fights ever. One of the most entertaining and thrilling fights ever. Both fighters reached into the deepest depths of their souls. Beristain yelled at Marquez after the 10th round "Did he hurt you". And Marquez couldn't even muster a meek reply. Clearly, he was breaking. Before walking back out for the 11th and 12th round Pacquiao looked up at the sky wondering how much more he could give, he didn't have much left to give. Both men were clearly trying to muster up any and all possible reserves to win the fight.

    Probably the last time in boxing history we've seen 2 ATG's at their absolute peak share the same ring together.

    I've been decidedly pro Pac won this fight by a point for years now. But in this instance there was so little to separate each fighter in that ring. And I'm coming around to that fact.

    The official result was a draw. And perhaps that was the most fair and just result. Pacquiao didn't deserve to win. And neither did Marquez. But both fighters didn't deserve to lose.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought Pac took it by 1 point, not to mention he was smaller than Marquez at the time - basically a Super Bantam fighting at Featherweight for big money fights. Marquez was a career Featherweight with some fights at Super Featherweight.

    The 2nd fight is my favorite because their sizes had evened out. Overall more skillful fight.
     
  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Draw they ****ed up the score card and they should have deducted a point from pac for a late punch to a clearly down Marquez
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Draw is the most fair score.
     
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  5. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao should've been dq or at least taken a point alway for hitting Marquez when he was down
     
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  6. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Clearly unintentional and in the heat of combat.
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He was on the floor for a while so many would say he did it on purpose and a dq was in order
     
  8. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    113-112 Pac for me.

    Marquez made an excellent comeback but he started five points behind after the second round.
     
  9. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Pac doesn't and has never fought dirty. He started pulling his punches against Rios and Margarito. There's simply no history of it.
     
  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He was down and he saw it is what it is
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I think Pac deserved the victory and actually the judging error confirms that.

    But JMM fought a hell of a fight so I'm not too unhappy with the result.
     
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  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    3 seconds is to much
     
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  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    A close fight can produce wide cards if a judge feel a fighter is edging round after round. Way too much effort goes in to examining score cards when without knowing what the judge was thinking they mean very little
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    A judge actually gave Marquez the 2nd round. Which was an absolutely absurd scoring.
     
  15. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    RJJ loss his title because of something like that too.
     
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