Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali never learnt to keep his left up.That is the result
     
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    YES. Watch the fight. VK out lands him, makes Lewis miss, and wasn't a stationary target. Vitali was up 4-2 on all cards and Lewis was getting tired. Your inability to see that is a weakness.

    But your score cards are rather " different " and it would not surprise me if you had it a draw or even Lewis up on points.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it was not the same Lewis that fought Tyson that I meant.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not going to rewatch whole fights for you. I got other things to do.I watched them at the time.
     
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    Vitali lost his passing of the torch fight.. How many guys in history weren't good enough to take the torch from the faded champ of the previous era.. Vitali took the greatness test and lost.. Simple as that.
     
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    Kohl and the WBO were like the Mafia at the time. German commmentators knew the offical cards in the middle of the fightt!!! You have some nerve. Absolutely disgusting what was going on there
     
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    Being 37 nearly 38 ,and a career heaviest didn't have anything to do with it?lol
     
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    You've been given several examples,nobody seriously expected you would admit the injustice of those verdicts, its just who you are.
     
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    All respect to @THE BLADE 2 who is a really good member, but that's the way I saw it, too. Lewis was getting beat. Fate dealt him good fortune with the medical stoppage, otherwise Klitschko had him.

    All that said, Lewis was definitely a greater ATG than Vitali (I put Lewis at #6 and the latter #13). Lennox didn't have much to prove at that point, I only have to question the tag "beat every opponent he ever faced". Because in my eyes, he didn't beat Vitali, and I personally though the scorecards should have been referred to, because Lewis was (at least to me) obviously losing the fight,
     
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    You think the |Reid v Otke fight was kosher don't you? lol
     
  12. Mendoza

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    This is very good post. I view Lewis as a greater heavyweight. His resume is excellent. Lewis is in my top 5. To be a think you need some power. Smaller great boxers won't get the job done.
     
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    Hello rules make it interesting. The rule is if the punch is caused by a punch, its a TKO. If it's caused by a headbutt, then you goto the cards ;)

    I thought Vitali was unlucky he cut so easily and agree he was winning cuts aside
     
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    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You run when someone wants to see your score card. Thats what he's saying. I still can not believe you think Holyfield beat Lewis in the 2nd fight. Post your card the next time you watch it, as I like to see or hear your reasoning.
     
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    If an obviously not in prime condition Lennox Lewis did this to him, what would the Lewis who destroyed Razor Ruddock have done? or the Lewis of the Rahman rematch . Ko inside 8