Folley was ancient when be fought Bonavena and past his best!He was beaten by everyone! Bonavena was green just 9 professional fights in 1965,he was very green!Next time they faced Bonavena beat him! Accorsing to everyone Willi dropped Foster but Foster came back and knocked him out!And Willi was also past his best!After Sonny and Ali bouts he losses almost every fight! Terrell is Quarry level?He was one trick pony who could not fight or move just hug and he had no punching power!He was so bad that even Chuck Wepner,Ramos,Thad Spencer and bum Bethea beat him!Quarry beat all of them if you don't remmember! Only Folley was close to Quarry but Quarry was faster with better skill,chin and power!
They stopped Quarry but no one knocked him out! You didn't remmember that Quarry was washed,old,outshaped cocaine and alchohol addict and also only trained 2 weeks for Nortona dn entered with broken hand!Still he almost knocked Norton but referre saved Norton from being knocked out! Quarry almost beat Frazier in first fight and it was bull**** stoppage!In second fight it was bad because Quarry was washed long ago! But still no one knocked Quarry while Ali and Frazier kbocked Bob! Quarry was not in their league but Bob was neother and Quarry is above him! Quarry would kill him like I said because he was taller,bigger,stronger,better chin and stamina also 15 pounds in size advantage!
Hey, I don't like Terrell much either, but he was a champion and Quarry wasn't. Those people you brought up that beat Terrell aren't good examples (Wepner and Bethea) because Terrell was old when he fought Wepner, who he beat up only to get robbed and was green vs. Bethea, who was no bum. Quarry never fought any of those guys but Spencer. I love Quarry, but I still prefer Folley. Quarry was more cerebral. What Folley was good at, he was the best at it.
Quarry was not taller. He was 6'0", and Foster was 6'3". Quarry didn't have better stamina necessarily. Sometimes he gassed terribly. Quarry only went 15 once to Bob's going 15 4x, as well as going into round 14 with Finnegan. I think the stamina case is in Bob's favor, but not by much as Quarry usually did well in 12-round contests.
Yes but Frazier bombed Bob out in 2. If Quarry could stand up to Frazier's power he'd walk right through Foster's punches.
This is a no brainer. Quarry would kill Foster. Foster wasnt very effective backing up and couldnt take a HW punch. Pretty silly to rely on cuts for Foster to stop Quarry. The only two guys who stopped Quarry on cuts anywhere near his prime were Ali and Frazier and Foster was nowhere near as formidable as either of those guys. Quarry wasnt Eddie Vick (who dropped Foster hard) or Besmanoff. Foster couldnt beat a decent hw to save his life and Quarry was better than decent.
You may think Terrell was champion, I don't. Ali was the only champion. Defeating a totally washed-up Eddie Machen in a bogus match -- not even a tournament -- arranged by men who disagreed with Ali's politics and religion doesn't make him a true champ. All this, while Ali continued to defend the real title in Europe against legitimate challengers like Cooper, London, and Mildenberger. I know people have grown accustomed to all these alphabet "belts" as they like to call them these days, but the WBA's attempted robbery of Ali's title was totally bogus as Ali proved when he destroyed Terrell a year later. As for the relative championship status of Terrell and Quarry, Ernie was handed his "belt" on a silver platter when he was matched against Machen in a fight in which the outcome was mostly predetermined not only because Eddie was known to be entering the "opponent" phase of his career, but also because Terrell bankrolled the fight in his own hometown in front of friendly fans and officials. In stark contrast, Quarry had to fight his way to the final match against Ellis in a real honest-to-God tournament of qualified contenders by defeating Thad Spencer (then thought to be a sure finalist) and Floyd Patterson.
Wasn't exactly a difficult pick was it. As is aid a while back threads pitting Foster vs good heavyweights really don't need to be made.
With Foster's terrible non-record against heavyweights, one must go with Quarry in this match-up. But I agree with He Grant that the merits of Foster might be more murky than his wipe out record against heavies indicate. Ali and Frazier were hugely better than either. Terrell's stab and grab style stinks, but if the officials score the way they generally did the short Quarry might have had a very tough time with constrictor Ernie. Quarry lost to Machen, so Folley certainly might handle him also. And Jones was very early in Foster's career. So I think it possible that an older, more experienced, and presumably better Foster might be a more viable underdog here than it appears on the surface. Still, I think Quarry is the logical pick.
