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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, heavies aren't great to watch.

    135-160 is the shizz
     
  2. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Thank you for your reply.
    I've said my piece. I actually really appreciate your opinions on (particularly modeen European) boxers. It takes all kinds.
    Adapt your lists, or don't. Your choice.
    Join this venture, or don't. Your choice.
    All I'm saying is don't be awkward for the sake of it. Don't be contrary.
    Take good care of yourself. Hope you submit your lists. More the merrier.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    To summise, anyone with an incomplete list won't be submitted.
     
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    FLY
    1. Jimmy Wilde
    2. Miguel Canto
    3. Pascual Perez
    4. Midget Wolgast
    5. Benny Lynch
    6. Frankie Genaro
    7. Pongsaklek Wongangham
    8. Pancho Villa
    9. Masao Oba
    10. Pone Kingpetch
    11. Betulio Gonzalez
    12. Willie Davis
    13. Sot Chitalada
    14. Horacio Accovallo
    15. Hiroyuki Ebihara

    BANTAM
    1. Eder Jofre
    2. Ruben Olivares
    3. Manuel Ortiz
    4. Fighting Harada
    5. Panama Al Brown
    6. Pete Herman
    7. Lionel Rose
    8. Terry McGovern
    9. Memphis Pal Moore
    10. George Dixon
    11. Kid Williams
    12. Carlos Zarate
    13. Chucho Castillo
    14. Joe Lynch
    15. Rafael Herrera

    FEATHER
    1. Willie Pep
    2. Sandy Saddler
    3. Salvador Sanchez
    4. Vicente Saldivar
    5. George Dixon
    6. Abe Attell
    7. Henry Armstrong
    8. Johnny Kilbane
    9. Terry McGovern
    10. George Dixon
    11. Ernesto Marcel
    12. Alexis Arguello
    13. Eusebio Pedroza
    14. Kid Chocolate
    15. Jim Driscoll

    LIGHT
    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Benny Leonard
    3. Joe Gans
    4. Ike Williams
    5. Carlos Ortiz
    6. Packy McFarland
    7. Henry Armstrong
    8. Tony Canzoneri
    9. Pernell Whitaker
    10. Freddie Welsh
    11. Lou Ambers
    12. Sammy Angott
    13. Joe Brown
    14. Sam Angott
    15. Alexis Arguello

    WELTER
    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Ray Leonard
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Tommy Hearns
    5. Jose Napoles
    6. Jack Britton
    7. Ted "Kid" Lewis
    8. Emile Griffith
    9. Barney Ross
    10. Kid Gavilan
    11. Jimmy McLarnin
    12. Charlie Burley
    13. Mickey Walker
    14. Barbados Joe Walcott
    15. Tommy Ryan

    MIDDLE
    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Carlos Monzon
    4. Marvin Hagler
    5. Bob Fitzsimmons
    6. Roy Jones
    7. Freddie Steele
    8. Holman Williams
    9. Charlie Burley
    10. Dick Tiger
    11. Tommy Ryan
    12. Mike Gibbons
    13. Emile Griffith
    14. Bernard Hopkins
    15. Stanley Ketchel

    LIGHTHEAVY
    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Gene Tunney
    6. Tommy Loughran
    7. John Henry Lewis
    8. Jimmy Bivins
    9. Bob Fitzsimmons
    10. Bob Foster
    11. Max Rosemblum
    12. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    13. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    14. Tommy Gibbons
    15. Harold Johnson

    HEAVY
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Larry Holmes
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. Joe Louis
    5. George Foreman
    6. Joe Frazier
    7. Sonny Liston
    8. Tyson Furey
    9. Rocky Marciano
    10. Evander Holyfield
    11. Jack Johnson
    12. Mike Tyson
    13. Harry Wills
    14. Jim Jeffries
    15. Riddick Bowe

    ALL TIME GREATS
    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Bob Fitzsimmons
    5. Sam Langford
    6. Ezzard Charles
    7. Muhammad Ali
    8. Roberto Duran
    9. Willie Pep
    10. Benny Leonard
    11. Archie Moore
    12. Ray Leonard
    13. Joe Gans
    14. Packy McFarland
    15. Joe Gans
    16. Barney Ross
    17. George Dixon
    18. Eder Jofre
    19. Terry McGovern
    20. Tommy Hearns
    21. Tony Canzoneri
    22. Floyd Mayweather
    23. Manny Pacquiao
    24. Pernell Whitaker
    25. Jimmy McLarnin
     
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  5. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didnt know any of that. I am now a fanatic
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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  7. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you for starting this great thread. I happened to have learned an awful lot.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    They are, theyre marked on his list of lists.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    And they also won't be included if they're incomplete, mate.
     
  10. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @lufcrazy I met the challenge. I'm unsatisfied with the bantamweight and featherweight lists in particular, but here they are, all 9:
    Flyweights:
    1. Pancho Villa
    2. Jimmy Wilde
    3. Midget Wolgast
    4. Walter McGowan
    5. Chartchai Chionoi
    6. Khaosai Galaxy
    7. Pone Kingpetch
    8. Pascual Perez
    9. Fidel LaBarba
    10. Frankie Genaro
    11. Miguel Canto
    12. Benny Lynch
    13. Betulio Gonzalez
    14. Masao Oba
    15. Bud Taylor

    Bantamweights:
    1. Eder Jofre
    2. Manuel Ortiz
    3. George Dixon
    4. Ruben Olivares
    5. Wilfredo Gomez
    6. Terry McGovern
    7. Sixto Escobar
    8. Fighting Harada
    9. Carlos Zarate
    10. Panama Al Brown
    11. Pete Herman
    12. Joe Lynch
    13. Bud Taylor
    14. Memphis Pal Moore
    15. Azumah Nelson

    Featherweights:
    1. Willie Pep
    2. Abe Attell
    3. Kid Chocolate
    4. Alexis Arguello
    5. Sandy Saddler
    6. Salvador Sanchez
    7. Henry Armstrong
    8. Vicente Saldivar
    9. Johnny Dundee
    10. Eusebio Pedroza
    11. George Dixon
    12. Terry McGovern
    13. Jim Driscoll
    14. Freddie Miller
    15. Naseem Hamed

    Lightweights:
    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Benny Leonard
    3. Ike Williams
    4. Carlos Ortiz
    5. Joe Brown
    6. Tony Canzoneri
    7. Pernell Whitaker
    8. Joe Gans
    9. Ad Wolgast
    10. Battling Nelson
    11. Julio Cesar Chavez
    12. Jimmy Carter
    13. Bob Montgomery
    14. Beau Jack
    15. Ray Mancini

    Welterweights:
    1. Emile Griffith
    2. Sugar Ray Robinson
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Kid Gavilan
    5. Jose Napoles
    6. Sugar Ray Leonard
    7. Mickey Walker
    8. Barney Ross
    9. Barbados Joe Walcott
    10. Pernell Whitaker
    11. Jimmy McLarnin
    12. Carmen Basilio
    13. Thomas Hearns
    14. Wilfred Benitez
    15. Marlon Starling

    Middleweights:
    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Carlos Monzon
    4. Marvin Hagler
    5. Bob Fitzsimmons
    6. Charley Burley
    7. Dick Tiger
    8. Tony Zale
    9. Jake LaMotta
    10. Holman Williams
    11. Tiger Flowers
    12. James Toney
    13. Rocky Graziano
    14. Gene Fullmer
    15. Bernard Hopkins

    Light Heavyweights:
    1. Archie Moore
    2. Ezzard Charles
    3. Bob Foster
    4. Tommy Loughran
    5. Roy Jones, Jr.
    6. Gene Tunney
    7. Harold Johnson
    8. Sam Langford
    9. Billy Conn
    10. Michael Spinks
    11. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    12. Bob Fitzsimmons
    13. Victor Galindez
    14. Marvin Johnson
    15. Georges Carpentier

    Heavyweights:
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Larry Holmes
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Joe Frazier
    6. George Foreman
    7. Rocky Marciano
    8. Jersey Joe Walcott
    9. Sonny Liston
    10. Ezzard Charles
    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Jack Dempsey
    13. Jack Johnson
    14. Lennox Lewis
    15. Floyd Patterson

    ATG:
    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Roberto Duran
    4. Archie Moore
    5. Henry Armstrong
    6. Ezzard Charles
    7. Carlos Monzon
    8. Emile Griffith
    9. Mickey Walker
    10. Willie Pep
    11. Harry Greb
    12. Larry Holmes
    13. Evander Holyfield
    14. Pancho Villa
    15. Marvin Hagler
    16. Pernell Whitaker
    17. Roy Jones, Jr.
    18. Joe Louis
    19. Jimmy Wilde
    20. Sugar Ray Leonard
    21. Joe Gans
    22. Jose Napoles
    23. Gene Tunney
    24. Barbados Joe Walcott
    25. Eder Jofre

    All very tough to decide. I know I'll get some criticism for my picks.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The only two things I'll say

    Bud Taylor at FLW

    Azumah Nelson at BW
     
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  12. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oh ya, ig those are messed up aren't they. Those were from two days ago, I forgot to revise them. I am not super knowledgeable when it comes to flyweights and bantamweights, so forgive my ignorance.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'd say 90% of posters are ignorant beneath featherweight tbh.

    I got absolutely schooled on Midget Wolgast a couple of pages back.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    :dunno
     
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  15. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    should he be higher, or lower? I'm guessing you think he should be higher.