Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Oh, I think I'd crush you in a debate because your full of it, unable to comprehend who I am talking about ( As shown in this thread DUH ) and ducking the questions offered as you fear it would paint your sophomoric self into a corner. I quite comfortable with my boxing knowledge; what you say means is nothing at all. Stop pretending to be some sort of erudite, you're a fraud, only able to impress the most ignorant posters here.

    You retreat like a small child, stay quiet for a while, then cast stones. You're the ultimate glass house type—free tip; those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I'd tell you to get over Leonard beating Hagler, but you can't. He fled to Italy. It's getting rough here for you, isn't i? You can take a tip from Hagler and relocate at any time.

    Of course if you want to sack up and engage me in a debate, you can start by answering 10 very easy yes and no questions on the point of this thread.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Not at all, you only pretend these were, because he was so much superior. But Gomez, Adamek and Johnson would have had pretty good chances against the other title-holder like Ruiz, Byrd, Brewster, Lyakowitsch, Rahman or Ibraghimov. They were at least on the same level as them and Haye had a lot weaker opposition (who would have been against theses first in fight for life and die) and struggled more.
    Louis was against worse boxers down and so was Ali, Lewis got even stopoed by average opponents. Dempsey was several times down too and had very long lay-offs, as he only gave Tunney a shot for the highest purse in boxing history when. Wladimir Klitschko also had to use some tricks to coem out of trouble, in opposite to his brother (who never used excessive holding, as he was just more skillful than him).

    So I assume it is fair to name him and Tyson the most dominant champions since Sullivan. - Ra's Al-Ghul

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  3. mcvey

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    But Lewis was prime for Vitali?lol
    Man Machine tore you a new one and richly deserved it was too!
     
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  4. CharlesBurley

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    I don't think Lewis was quite prime but he would never like working at the type of pace Vitali got him working at. And he got hit more against Vitali than he ever did in any other fight. I think Vitali is always able to land and outbox Lennox. In turn Lennox has the capacity to KO Vitali
     
  5. mcvey

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    You and your pal Ras al Guhl the forum's joke, a very apt tag team!
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Resorting to lying and misquoting already? Who is Viatali? LOL.

    I never said Lewis was at his best. I don't think Vitali was at his best either as he improved post Lewis. What I said is Vitali made Lewis look bad and Lewis clearly didn't vs Rahman or Tyson. Hence there is no evidence Lewis at age 37 was shot.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Holyfields excuse?
    He was 6days short of45 when he lost to Ibragimov.
    42 when he lost to Donald.
    6days from 41 when he lost to Toney!
    It's official ,you're a moron!
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Vitali was bang in his prime you ass! Vitali is the guy you name variously as VITLAI ,VIALTI and VIATAL'
    You of all people should keep quiet about spelling, you illiterate muppet!
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

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    But let's just now focus on why you brought up the Cooper fight because that is a good illustration of your dishonesty to the whole debate. Why do you bring this fight up? What is its relevance in a Vitali-Holyfield showdown?
     
  10. Heisenberg

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    This. People love to knock Holyfield then conveniently act oblivious to the fact he was a fighter who was at his peak between age 27 to 31
     
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  11. THE BLADE 2

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    I can only say that you are dead wrong about Vitali's power. To suggest that Vitali's arm punches have more power than Wlad's punches is just silly. Also you have the consistent habit of scoring every fight in favour of German based boxers. Maybe you are actually one of those corrupt judges who scored those fights in Germany LOL
     
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  12. mcvey

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    Puritty
    Chisora
    Mahone
    Briggs
    Williams
    Sullivan
    Sosnowski
    Charr
    Were all unranked by the Ring.=GIMMEES
     
  13. Mendoza

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    And for Ruiz, whom he should be 1-2 vs his excuse is? Bawhaha.

    Toney was past his best, and much smaller. The excuse here is?

    Take note clown, Vitali needs no excuses past his 33r birthday. He simply had more ability, hence his fights were easy for him, and he was often the older man,

    Got that, " Tony " AKA McVey, Tonto62, and Rainer?
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Using facts, Universum who had them both said Vitali hit harder. I tend to disagree with that, but either way Vitali hit way harder than the ROIDED up Holyfield, that's a fact you agree with. Or speak up if you don't.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Ruiz was a ranked heavyweight when Holyfield fought him.
    Evander was 37 in their 1st fight,38 in their 2nd ,and 39 in their 3rd.
    What's with all this silly BAW HA HA ****? Are you having a melt down?lol
     
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