Prime Evander Holyfield vs James Toney @ Cruiserweight

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone knows that Holyfield was pretty old and dry by the time Toney got to him in 2003. How would the Toney who fought at CW around 1997-2003 do against the young, prime Holyfield who dominated the CW division? Does Toney still edge Holyfield due to styles or would a younger Holyfield outhustle and outmuscle Toney? Toney seemed really comfortable at CW and has put on some great performances at the weight, so a fight against a prime Holyfield would have been very interesting.
    I'll take Holyfield to outmaneuver and outpunch Toney in an entertaining fight.
     
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  2. CharlesBurley

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    Holyfield probably outworks him but I'm not 100% on it. Toney has the skill advantage for sure and he'd make Holyfield miss plenty and land plenty on him
     
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  3. Richmondpete

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    Might be the best fight in the history of the sport. I think I'd lean towards holyfield on a close points win
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If this is 15 rounds Holy takes a 9-6 UD, He'd have Toney on the defensive most of the fight
     
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  5. Flo_Raiden

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    The Holyfield that fought Dwight Muhammad Qawi 1 against James Toney who fought Vasiliy Jirov would surely have been an epic slugfest.
     
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  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree and i suspect that this was not only a case of "younger guy beats the old guy" , stylistically i think that toney ALWAYS would trouble evander
     
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  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this one
     
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  8. mr. magoo

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    Undecided. Evander at cruiserweight was a force. But James was much more experienced than a 16-0 Evander. And holy’s chance of a KO is practically zero
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    my understanding was that this is about 1988 holyfield
     
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  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes ? And that’s what I’m talking about.
     
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  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting.I think that Holyfield’s combinations would earn him a competitive decision
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Holyfield at cruiser and with under 20 fights
     
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  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see your point.But I see the combinations and movement of Holyfield
     
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  14. mr. magoo

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    And that could earn him a win. I’m undecided
     
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  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield UD
     
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