the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Sorry you feel that way about Norton. I always thought Young won that fight, but I felt that Norton winning by an SD was not disgraceful for either man. It was as close as a fight could get. What did you think of the fight overall?

 

I would say the fifteenth round is probably one of the classic 15th rounds. I love this fight tbh.

 

Roberto Duran vs. Carlos Palomino, 10 rounds on June 22, 1979 at Madison Square Garden in NYC on the undercard of the Larry Holmes-Mike Weaver heavyweight title fight.

Palomino, 144 3/4, comes in 5 1/2 months removed from losing his WBC welterweight crown to Wilfred Benitez with a 27-2-3 record at age 29.

Duran, 145 1/2, is 67-1 and has given up his lightweight claim to stalk the 147-pound division at age 28. He’s coming off wins over Monroe Brooks and Jimmy Heair.

1. 10-9 Duran
2. 10-9 Duran
3. 10-9 Palomino (close)
4. 10-9 Duran (close)
5. 10-9 Duran (close)
6. 10-8 Duran (knocks Palomino down with a right hand at the start of the round, cuts Palomino’s left ear and right eye)
7. 10-9 Palomino (nice bounce-back)
8. 10-9 Duran
9. 10-9 Duran
10. 10-9 Duran

My card: 98-91 Duran

Official cards: 99-90, 99-91, 99-90

This is a really sweet skills showcase. Palomino is competitive and does some really good work in many rounds but Roberto is too quick and his head, shoulder and hand feints are a clinic. Everyone should see this often overlooked masterclass.

 

His style is fun to watch but it's similar to Bruce Curry; I just hate anything that holds the right glove on the left side.

Fight was much better late, good fifteenth. Other than that, it was just a pretty average fight.

 

Floyd Mayweather v Oscar DeLaHoya

This fight's probably been done to death, but I actually scored it today, so here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 Floyd
Round 2: 10-9 Oscar
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Floyd
Round 5: 10-9 Floyd
Round 6: 10-9 Oscar
Round 7: 10-9 Oscar
Round 8: 10-9 Oscar
Round 9: 10-9 Floyd
Round 10: 10-9 Floyd
Round 11: 10-9 Floyd
Round 12: 10-10 Even

Total: 116-114 Mayweather (actual scores: 116-112 and 115-113 both for Mayweather and 115-113 for Oscar for a split decision Floyd win)

Again, not much ground to go over that we haven't done in the past. Even as the commentators mentioned, it was hard to come to grips with Oscar's neglect of the jab after his mid-rounds success. But it is what it is.

 

Alfonso Zamora v Soo Hwan Hong

Hong did pretty well for the first 3 rounds but it was clear Zamora was starting to overpower him and in the 4th once he went down, he never looked like he fancied getting back up even though he was clear headed.

1 9-10 (close)
2 10-9
3 10-9
(29-28)
4 Zamora KO Hong

 

I do have a bit more patience for tactical matches.

 

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Gonna watch this series. Supposed to be real good, and I can believe it.

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9 : 10
9 : 10
10 : 9
9 : 10 (47/48)
10 : 9
8 : 10
9 : 10
10 : 9
10 : 9 (94/95)
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Scoring wasn't difficult. Fullmer out-hustled Robi, and he knew how to get in close to do it. It wasn't pretty, but it did work. Not many close rounds either.

Fullmer knew what he was doing in there, but he was awfully crude. Scrappy. That's the word for him, lots of dirty fighting, high volume and physicality. But little power. He did do a good job of showing Robinson's stylistic weaknesses here though.

Robinson looked good here. Fresh and slick, nice and smooth. His overall lack of an inside game was definitely exploited here, though. Fullmer learned he was winning when he could get inside and rough him up, and like Graziano before him, used tons of rabbit punches. Although fighting like Graziano is what got him brutally KOed in the next fight.

 

I always like the way in which Fulmer completely changed his style for the Basilio fights.

 

Moore vs Marciano

Moore is a different beast in this fight for the first round. He gives Rocky an awful load of respect and fights at mid range. Jabbing, feinting, slipping and countering. Not trying to walk him down as he was known to do at 175,well as he was lmowm to do against everyone not called Rocky.

Same in the second, but Rocky over reaches and Moore fires a hard short right hand that drops Rocky. Ignore the short count, Rocky is seriously hurt here and Moore puts a beating on this round. He pressures him, he out boxes him and he pretty much has his way. Rocky starts swinging towards the end of the round to get Moore to back off a bit, but Archie is looking excellent here.

Round 3 starts with Rocky giving up all pretenses of boxing with Archie. He stays at mid range pawing the jab and leaping in with huge hooks. Archie is content sticking behind the jab, knowing he can hurt Rocky. But for the first time he's being forced to give ground up and even during his prime Archie has a weakness on the back foot. Archie is picking off some beautiful shots but the crude work of Rocky had completely changed the dynamic of the fight.

Round 4 sees Archie trying to re establish his jab but Rocky is having none of it. He throws power shot after power shot driving Moore back. Moore is trying to meet fire with fire but it's clear that only one man is getting the better of these heavy exchanges. It's crazy, there's not a huge difference in weight here, but it now looks very much like a HW vs a LHW. The way Frazier was doing what he wanted with Foster and Tyson with Spinks, Rocky is like that now. Moore isn't going down but the end looks inevitable now. It's just a question of when the chin will crack.

Round 5 actually sees Moore putting on a bit of a back foot clinic. He's jabbing circling away, parrying the hooks, slipping and countering when he sees the opportunity. He looks like Ezzard Charles in there at the moment. Excellent round by Moore as he pulls out more tricks than I thought his tool box possessed. You wanna see Moore put on a back foot clinic, watch this round.

Round 6 follows the pattern of the previous round but then suddenly a wild over hand right gets through and crumples Moore. Rocky looks completely rejuvenated and chases after Moore throwing dozens of full power hooks. Moore somehow stays standing for about 100 of them but then drops right at the end of the round. You have to feel for Moore here. Twice he's settled into a winning strategy and twice Marciano has just thrown technique out the window and bulldozed his way through him.

Round 7 sees Moore come out and quickly start popping that jab. He knows he has the ability now to outbox Marciano, he just has to avoid getting hit, for the remaining 8 rounds. Moore slips and lands a huge right hand driving Rocky back and he starts to unload himself, but he seems very wary of the power Rocky is packing. Moore seems content letting Rocky swing wild and get behind his jab again. Moore goes down but its ruled a slip. Moore showing great defence in the pocket, his plan now is to counter and let Rocky tire himself out. But man, standing in the pocket with Rocky trying to slip 100 punches is not a good strategy. Rocky gets through at the end but that's a very good round for Archie.

Round 8 Moore on his bike but he's not establishing that jab meaning Rocky has nothing to stop him wailing in. Moore is looking to bait and counter now, but the blunt force of Rocky is telling its toll on Moore. He's countering less and shipping more again. Rocky is back in control and Moore is hoping to land a hail mary shot but a right hand at the end of the round drops Moore, seems to tag him behind his temple but Moore looks to have nothing left at this stage.

Round 9 Rocky has no respect for Moore at this stage and just unleashes fury until a left hand gets through, this time Moore doesn't beat the count. Excellent.

Better than excellent. For my money, this is the best performance by a reigning LHW champ challenging for the HW crown (well apart from Michael Spinks)

 

Bob Foster vs Dick Tiger

Man have you ever seen an ATG look so hapless when defending his belt.

Foster could have beaten him behind a jab, without ever leaving second gear.

Even crouching, giving up 3 inches of height, he was out jabbing Tiger with ease.

This meant Tiger had to try and brute strength Foster but Bob was just too quick for him and repeatedly caught him on the way in.

The finish was quick and brutal.

Devastating performance.

 

Bob Foster vs Vicente Rondon

This was a re unification after Foster had been stripped and it was pegged to be his toughest fight in the LHW division.

Instead we have a masterclass of jabbing on the front foot. Rondon runs out of ring and eats a huge right hand, Foster follows it up with the left hook. Rondon gets up but it's soon stopped with the follow up assault.

Foster bearing down behind that jab must have been terrifying in his prime.

 

Are you binging light-heavies?

 

Not necessarily, I'm just refreshing some boxers I haven't watched in a while.

Next up is Spinks and Jones Jr.

Then I'm debating whether or not to score all the close fights of Glen Johnsons career.

Not that Rummy's ATG series is finished I can start forgetting about resumes etc and go back to just enjoying fights

I was doing all the FOTY entries but too many are missing and it got on my nerves haha

 

I made my Olivares/Chavez thread because I wanted to gauge public opinion before rewatching a bunch of Olivares fights, and watching some key Chavez fights which I've missed. So I get what you're saying, I'm doing similar.

Which Spinks fights are you watching?

I also debated doing that once, I got bored after three or four, he wasn't as ententaining as you'd think, or at least as I did thought. Although I do love the fight between Glen and Gonzalez.