Jim Corbett vs Jack Sharkey

This is a bold statement.

Fitzsimmons and Jeffries were at least regarded as being strong champions.

Are you saying that he could not have beaten Hart, Burns, Willard, or latter Braddock say?

 

Risko beat blown up middles and light heavies?
What were Mitchell,Choynski ,and McCoy?LOL
Risko beat five world champions ,two of them heavyweight champs.
Which fights of Corbett were filmed which of them had these old timers seen?Fleischer never saw Corbett fight.
Want to go by him?
Okay ,who did he rank as the greatest heavyweight of all time?

Jack Johnson whom he DID see fight!

 

What's the problem? I've asked twice. How many historical lists from 1920-1960 had Sharkey over Corbett? Your reply is?

Choynski Ko'd Johnson cold, who you'd rate above anyone Risko beat. Risko didn't beat any heavyweight lineal champions with an active belt. I'm pretty sure Braddock and Godfrey were not even ranked when Risko beat them. Baer could have been, without looking I'll say he wasn't.

Risko was a good journeyman who fought often and could catch an out of shape or under motivated pro and beat them. In all most all cases the ones he beat also beat him. Risko lost.... a lot.

 

I've ripped Corbett's resume to bits and just like my challenge on Jeffries you have nothing to offer. Go somewhere and do the right thing.

 

Risko fought a lot! He averaged nearly 7 fights a year for 18 years...after Corbett beat Sullivan he had 7 fights...in ten years!
I think Corbett probably beats Risko but I wouldn't devalue him to journeyman status to win an argument, h was part of the eliminator esries to find a champion, post Corbett.I would further add that Risko had Loughrans number and his style resembled Corbetts.

 

BTW if you study the period, the Mitchell win was a nothing. Charlie was fighting for the first time in 8 years!

 

A counter is that Mitchell certainly was sold on Corbett's abilities.

 

No, we're not down to 6. I stated that Risko defeated 7 HOFers - and that's the correct number.

And when you didn't like that, you said they were mostly not real heavyweights.

So I showed you 6 wins against HOFer, who weighed in over the light heavyweight limit.

Still not satisfied, you now ask how many fought Risko at 185 pounds or more. OK, here they are:
Loughran x 2, 185 and 192
Baer 204
Godfrey 235
Sharkey 191

I'm aware, this means nothing to you. You will continue talking nonsense, as nothing seems to get through to you. Look at the hundreds (literally) of times mcvey has made you look like a complete fool - and yet you still come back for more. And the funny thing is, that each time you actually think, that YOU are getting the better of the argument - apparently completely oblivious to the fact, that you are being schooled over and over and over again!

 

I'm saying he couldn't beat any champ after John L. Sullivan. Certainly not Jack Sharkey. All the guys you mentioned faced and beat better fighters than Corbett defeated.

 

Very much opinions and your is reasonable. I think he coluld beat Carnera, Hart, maybe Burns, Willard for sure, Braddock possible too. Not Sharkey, who was very good.

 

Willard beat Jack Johnson. Braddock outboxed Max Baer, who frankly was a better boxer than Corbett and hit a lot harder, too.

I wouldn't pick Corbett over any of them. Corbett never beat anyone who could actually box like a modern fighter.

 

I wouldnt get too hung up on modern, there never was a D day when all changed. Tom McMahon boxed the ears off Willard who did feck all except outlast Johnson. And a slew of BOXERS outboxed Braddock. Gains, Stribling etc beat Carnera, Burns beat Hart, I'm not that big on Corbett but fellas like Burke, Kilrain, Choynski,Sullivan, McCoy, Sharkey were serious full-time boxers with loads of fights under their belts..

 

Hung up on modern? Sullivan was chugging whiskey between rounds against Kilrain and was vomiting because he was chugging alcohol and getting punched in the stomach.

How many "serious full time boxers" are drinking booze between rounds in title fights these days?

The era that Corbett was a "skilled technician" in was filled with a bunch of crude brawlers who drank between rounds and swung away at each other (because they weren't any more skillful sober than they were drunk), when they weren't throwing each other to the ground when they decided they wanted a round to end.

If amateur boxing a different sport than pro boxing today, boxing in the 1800s was a different sport, too.

A slew of boxers may have outboxed Braddock, but they had all faced clever boxers themselves. Corbett never fought any boxers like Braddock or like anyone else from the 1920s and 1930s.

The sport evolved. Jack Sharkey wasn't going to get drunk between rounds.

Corbett isn't beating Jack Sharkey or any other champs who came later.