Is Floyd Mayweather The GOAT

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even if he isn't the GOAT, he's one of the best fighters of his generation and a first ballot HOFer, without a doubt.
     
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  2. Johnny_B

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    I don't admit anything cause I don't know if he did or not. My point is plenty have used PEDs in combat sports and probably use them, and if Mayweather uses, he ain't the only one.
    You seem to think I'm a Mayweather fan, I'm not, not by any means. I ****ing hate his style and I don't like him as a person, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating how great of a boxer he is and how good he was at winning matches.
    My favorite boxers are brawlers and people who trade punches, I ****ing hate out-boxers.
    I'm the biggest Tyson fan. I love Hagler, Liston.
    But I repeat, that doesn't stop me from understanding and appreciating the skill many defensive boxers and out-boxers have.

    Greatest my arse. Ali was also a runner, similar to Mayweather.
    Judging by your criteria in determining greatness, Ali is nowhere near the GOAT.

    You said Mayweather got the judges in Vegas on his side. Well, he only has 1 match that was disputable, while Ali benefited from far more gift decisions. Any fighter who was in very good condition, could punch with some authority, and could fight well on the inside, had great chance to beat Ali, mainly because Ali usually moved backwards and did not have explosive power. Jones, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Spinks, all defeated him and some were robbed of additional victories. And then there was Henry Cooper, who may have had a KO were it not for a glove “problem”. Ali’s mouth puts him in the top ten of fighters, not his boxing ability.
    On the other hand, Mayweather has never lost.

    You said Mayweather did not treat his women right. Well, Ali did worse. Ali was an open misogynist in word and deed. Ali defended Elijah Muhammad even after Malcolm X told him that Elijah had multiple extramarital affairs (including statutory **** with underage girls) and fathered as many as 13 children with these women and girls.
    Ali's first wife, Sonji Roi, was not interested in adhering to any strict dress and behavior codes or heeding the word of Elijah Muhammad. Ali divorced her as a result.
    In 1974, at age 32, Ali began an extramarital relationship with a 16-year-old named Wanda Bolton who soon gave birth to Ali’s daughter, Khaliah. Ali was still married to second wife Belinda Boyd at the time but this didn’t stop him from also marrying Bolton (who changed her name to Aaisha Ali) in a non-legally binding Islamic ceremony. In a move that surely would’ve made the scum Elijah Muhammad proud, Ali promptly moved Aaisha and her baby into his training camp alongside Belinda and her children.
    A year later, Ali was in the Philippines for his third fight against Joe Frazier. He left his legal and illegal wives and kids home but instead traveled with an actress and model named Veronica Porché. Boyd saw her husband on TV, introducing his latest mistress to his new pal, dictator Ferdinand Marcos. Ali eventually divorced Boyd and married Porché.
    When Ali died, no memorials mentioned his endorsement of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 because “he’s keeping God in schools and that’s enough for me.” No one mentioned his support for George Wallace, the segregationist Alabama governor who ran for president in 1968. “I like what he says,” Ali stated at the time.

    Ali also treated his opponents horrible.
    He labeled Black opponents Terrell, Patterson, Frazier as “Uncle Toms”
    He relentlessly mocked Frazier’s manner of speech and regularly called him a gorilla and the white man’s champion. The hard-working Frazier became seen as a foil, a dupe of the establishment. With progressing cruelty, Ali controlled the narrative and few questioned how such an anti-authority rebel could publicly declare that Frazier was “so ugly his face should be donated to the bureau of wildlife.” But Ali’s fans took it seriously enough to send regular death threats to Frazier and his family.
    All this despite that fact that Frazier publicly supported Ali’s conscientious objector status and -- get this -- helped his rival financially during the exile.
     
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  3. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali also essentially harassed Liston until he agreed to a fight.
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    How can anyone be fighter of the era when they totally lose control , get hysterical & totally embarrass himself when someone asks you a simple question?? How can a coward who's afraid to fight be Fighter of the era You log off
     
  5. Tankatron

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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    LOL If tha were true what does it say about your idol Fluffy Floyd a BUM scared him so much he **** himself . Show me the "loaded wraps" ROFL There never was any
     
  7. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR is the GOAT as far as me, pro boxers, coaches, promoters, boxing writers and 95% of knowledgeable fans are concerned.

    After that there's actually a bit of a gap, so dominant and superior in every facet of the sport was he and he took on everybody, often multiple times and in most instances won easily and on top of all that, his skill set would be right at home in any era.
     
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Proof that SRR is overrated.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Why did margo never beat anyone again after being exposed? If he's this unstoppable force as you make him out to be he should have destroyed cotto in the rematch and walked right through pac. What happened?
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fighter of the decade you log off.
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    He was banned for nearly 2 years by the Keystone Kops Err sorry the CSAC. He wasnt even allowed to train all that time The only fight he LEGITIMATELY lost since then was to Pac where his eye got permanently damaged. Cotto couldnt even beat a one eyed Margarito he had to rely on that crooked doc to stop the fight to save Cotto Quitting AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. C.J.

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    Floyd aint Fighter of anything The fairy fisted dancer CANNOT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ive never said Antonio Margarito was an unstoppable force. What I said was Antonio OWNS your cowardly idol & it happened in front of the camera's when Floyd nearly had a nervous breakdown
    Poor Wittle Fluffy was SCCCCCCCAAAAARRRED !!!!
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excuses!! He was never that good to begin with. Anyone who can't get by the likes of dixon Jones and santos is no world beater and isn't a fighter that anyone will fear.
     
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    so youre saying Floyd wasnt really anyone then coz Tony scared the **** outta him loly