1-Foreman in his 20s. Has a better chin than Tyson. And much better chin than lewis 2-" if young could beat Foreman" At least young was a hell of fighter that was robbed against Ali and maybe against Norton too . mccall and rahman were mediocre guys and knocked Lewis the **** out
Lewis would be very cautious of Foreman’s power so I doubt Foreman would land much, if a past it Ali was able to knockout a gassed foreman imagine what a much bigger power puncher with great boxing skills would do to him
He doesn't have a better chin than Tyson. I'm not sure he has a better one than Lewis either. It's irrelevant how good McCall and Rahman were since Lewis was not prepared properly for them and got hit with clean power punches that would probably take out any HW in history.
Ali had the chin,the stamina, the style, and the MIND to take the damage from George.and the stop him late. Still in 2020 Lewis could not dream about doing it
It's not ridiculous at well. You Ali fanboys only say that cause if what I say is true it diminishes Ali's win over Foreman.
I'm curious in which fights did Lennox show the ability to withstand serious punishment to the body? Both of them were stopped more times than Foreman. Foreman got nailed more times than either of them in a much longer career against just as many big hitters. The only conclusion you can reach is that either Foreman had a better chin or better defense than Tyson and Lewis.
I venture George had a better chin than either, especially 90s George. How many times did we see Tyson or Lewis get knocked down hard (TWICE), scrape themselves off the canvas and roar back to knock the crap out of the other guy?
Fight Advantages: Hand Speed-Lewis, Boxing Ability-Lewis, KO Power-Foreman, Chin-Foreman, Size-No Advantage, Defense-Lewis, Endurance-Lewis, Adaptablility-Lewis, Foot Speed-No Advantage, Strength-Foreman, Jab-No Advantage, Cuts-No Advantage, Reach-No Advantage(Lewis 84”, Foreman 82”), Body Punches-Foreman: Total: Lewis 5-4-5 Jim Carney Jr. Author and Boxing Expert: In this one, big George is actually the smaller man. (I consider the 1970-77 George as the one in his prime). Both men can box and punch are strong and move well for their size. This is a rock 'em sock 'em battle. Lennox wins his share of the rounds. But ultimately his vulnerable chin betrays him before the eighth round (young George's endurance limit). Foreman by kayo before the eighth. A fierce battle up until then with George possibly hitting the canvas Moontan Boxing Expert from Heavyweightaction.com Classic fight and very hard to pick. My gut feeling just looking at the matchup is to give Lewis the edge because of his ability to box from a distance and move just as well as Foreman if not better. Lewis was very smart and would hold a great deal throughout the fight trying to tire Foreman out. Although Lewis had a great reach of 84”, Foreman was almost his equal with 82”. A lot of tying up and holding by Lewis and losing some of the early rounds but as the fight goes on I give Lewis the clear advantage and the win over 15 rounds. Lewis takes very few chances playing it safe. Frank Lotierzo, Sweet Science This fight has been discussed a lot recently. In a Foreman-Lewis fight, I see Foreman stopping Lewis. Lewis may be the better boxer, but versus Foreman it would never be a factor. It's even debatable that Lewis had the edge in hand speed over a 1970's Foreman. Foreman would've charged out of his corner and taken the fight right to Lewis. Lennox would be forced to fight, which would lead to his downfall. He doesn't have the punch or chin to hang with Foreman. Lennox could no way trade with Foreman, and he wasn't a good enough boxer to stay away from him. Lewis isn't even the bigger man. Lewis in his prime was in the 230's to mid 240's. Foreman was between 217 and 232 in the 1970's. He weighed 217 for Frazier and 232 for Lyle. Do you really think Foreman is the smaller man when he's only spotting 10-15 pounds to Lewis? I don't. Foreman is only two inches shorter, but he is the overall bigger and stronger man. He also had the superior chin. Foreman was the better puncher with either hand, and there is no doubt about who was tougher. Foreman was super tough mentally, something that is often overlooked by many. I just don't believe Lewis had anything to deter Foreman with. Lewis' only shot would be to get Foreman deep into the fight and tire him out. However, Lewis doesn't have the chin or the toughness to hold Foreman off to be around late in the fight. And don't buy that smoke that Foreman blows that Lewis is the greatest ever. Foreman is a huckster and a salesman who is just selling you his humble image. I know many who know Foreman personally, and I have been told by them that no way Foreman thinks Lewis is the greatest. In fact Foreman always says that Joe Louis is the greatest heavyweight champ ever. Joe Frazier is the greatest heavyweight champ under 6 feet tall, and Muhammad Ali is the greatest man to ever box. Yahoo Forum: Foreman advantage over Lewis 7-2 Boxing Scene Forum Foreman advantage over Lewis 62-12 Experts Predicted Outcome: Foreman is the winner 4-1 Jim Carney Jr. Foreman 8-KO Moontan Lewis 15-D Frank Lotierzo Foreman Yahoo Forum Foreman Boxing Scene Forum Foreman Source: https://web.archive.org/web/2015020...action.com/Dream Matchups.html#lewisvsforeman
I never said Lewis could withstand great punishment to the body. But who says he has to ?! He's not gonna be stupid to stand on the ropes like Ali did. Ali only did that cause he had no choice. Being stopped more times does not mean they have a weaker chin. It all depends on how many times you've been hit with power punches. And Foreman never got nailed with more power punches than them. Remember that we are talking about a 73 Foreman, not 90s Foreman who indeed probably had a brilliant chin, but that was also due to the fact that he was a lot heavier and had thicker bones.
This is key. How many times have you heard that it's the punches that you don't see, or are not set for, that knock you out? Lewis was not set for those 2 punches that knocked him out. It's completely his fault of course, but there's no way he's gonna fight like that against George Foreman.. I'd also dismiss the Bruno fight, as this is clearly well before 1999 and Manny Steward's influence.
Never. It's laughable to suggest they were more durable than Foreman who was only stopped once when he punched himself out in hot outdoor African weather against the fastest heavyweight counter puncher of all time. He ate bombs from Lyle, Chuvalo, Frazier, Cooper, Briggs, Holyfield, Cooney, Stewart, etc. The only other heavyweight to face as many big hitters was Ali, who had a great chin but often slipped or rolled with shots at the last second.