As it turns out, the WBC didn't actually order Canelo to face Yildirim

Money should be irrelevant in sport.

If people will justify GGG's title fights, even offer up excuses, those same people should judge all fighters with the same stick if credibility matters to them.

 

Money and popularity are everything in boxing

Yes I agree 100%, thats why if GGG would request to fight Yildirim for the WBC SMW title I would call it a cowardly move by him

 

I assume you've called Golovkin cowardly multiple times now.

 

Didnt call him a coward but I didnt like when he chose Rolls as a tune up fight, it was a weak move, also greedy AF. He's clearly milking last last years as a pro

 

Btw I'd tune in to watch Canelo vs Yildirim, if it happens because Canelo is a great fighter after all, and I love boxing so don't get me wrong even though I'd call it a cherrypick

 

How is choosing to fight for a vacant title a cherry pick? Yildirum is the #1 ranked WBC contender, he's clearly next in line for a title shot. Had Benavidez not lost his title on the scales, Yildirum would be his next mandatory.

The other big names at 168 are either suspended or not wanting to fight. Caleb Plant made it very clear after his last title defense that he is not ready for Canelo. Saunders is currently "suspended by California State Athletic Commission until 2020-11-30" in addition to having his license suspended by the BBBoC for his social media video on teaching men “how to hit a woman” and after Saunders cowardly vacated his WBO title and was on video making excuses about not fighting Canelo and demanding more $$.

Callum Smith would be a great match but many argued that Callum didn't deserve to win his last fight vs John Ryder, many argued that Callum looked terrible in that match. Many argued he looked so bad that many said if Canelo took that fight it would be Canelo "cherry picking" Smith because Smith looked so bad vs Ryder and got a gift decision.

So who is there to fight at 168 what would be more important than fighting for the Full WBC World Super Middleweight Title? The WBC is seen by many is the biggest belt to get in any division.

Now I get argument that if Canelo really wanted to challenge himself he would stay at 175 and challenge Beterbiev. But I think we seen how undersized Canelo is at 175. He looked slower, more cautious and inactive vs Kolavev. Many would have advised him to stay at 168 or 160 as he's a better fighter in those division than he woud be at Light Heavyweight. He also vacated his 175 title already that he won from Kovalev, so if he was going to fight Beterbiev it would have made sense to hold on to his title and have a unification match with Beterbiev at 175 right after he beat Kovalev. But doing that may have affected his ability to retain his titles at Middleweight or his regular title at 168.

It was not an easy decision and I agree that Beterbiev is probably the biggest challenge possible for Canelo but Canelo is a natural Light Middleweight / Middleweight. Canelo really doesn't belong at Light Heavyweight. The fact that he moved up and knocked out Kovalev was monumental, but I think him taking on Beterbiev at 175 might be Canelo biting off more than he could chew. At least at the moment. He still has 168 to conquer and if Billy Joe Sniffles one day decides to grow a pair or stop sniffing glue or trying to find hookers on the street to buy crack from, I think Sounders would be an even bigger event for Canelo than Beterbiev would be.

I think Canelo's plan is to pick up belts at 168 and try to unify that decision, which is closer to his natural weight, but I wouldn't rule out Canelo Beterbiev happening down the road. Of course the problem with that to Canelo's haters is uh oh Beterbiev's already 35 years old, so we can expect Canelo to be accused of trying to age Beterbiev by not fighting him. Of course before Canelo moved up to LHW to fight Kovalev no one even considered that Canelo would even consider fighting above 168 and move up to Light Heavyweight. But then once he did that, now everyone expects him to fight the baddest man at LHW at the baddest man's weight before he gets any older.

Canelo will never satisfy his haters demands or expectations of him. Wanting him to stay at 175 and fight Beterbiev is one thing, but there's many quality fighters at 168 that would be tough for Canelo, and to claim that he's cherry picking Yildirum for the vacant WBC title is downright laughable. It's because Canelo is just so damn good the only way his haters think that he has a chance to lose is by moving up to a weight class way above his natural weight to fight the baddst guy in that division. It's fine to want Canelo to fight Beterbiev and for his haters to want that thinking Canelo would lose, but Canelo has proven you wrong before so be careful what you wish for you just might get it and be proven wrong again.

 

Man, Yildirim got KTFO by Eubanks jr, he doesnt deserve to be in the same building as Canelo, let alone fight him. The Turk would get KTFO by Benavidez too

 

TALKING COWARDS!! do you remember a pollo rojo that claimed to be a world champion but wouldnt defend it only at c/w ?.After winning a fight he bragged to GGG "Come on get in the ring I'll beat you now at 160 Us Mexicans dont duck we fight " BUT When the WBC ordered him to defend against GGG at 160 what did he do ??? He chickened out like the coward he is & handed the WBC title to GGG because he was afraid to fight him. Now THAT is a coward. My good friend in the gym a proud Mexican fighter said " He's right Mexican do FIGHT!!!!But he sure aint no Mexican" " We disown him"
You have a very short memory my friend

 

Serious question for you : Is Artur Beterbiev too old? Artur is currently 35 years old. He'll be 36 in January 2021, which is the same age that Kovalev was when Canelo knocked him out. So Artur is currently older than GGG was when Canelo fought him the first time. And the argument there by many GGG fans was that GGG was already past his prime being when he fought Canelo since he was in his mid-30s. Many continue to argue that you can no longer be considered prime when you are well into your 30s.

So my question to you CJ is : is Artur too old? If Kovalev was too old and too past his prime when Canelo fought him, if GGG was too old and too past his prime when Canelo fought him, then why doesn't the same apply for Artur?

He's the same age, yet he's now the one that you and many of Canelo's haters want to see him fight, the same people who criticize Canelo for fighting too many old guys and not fighting enough guys his age. Yildirim just turned 29, Canelo just turned 30, so now Canelo could be fighting a guy about his age, even a year younger than him.

Artur is an old man C.J. isn't he? Shouldn't Canelo be fighting more young guys and guys his age?

 

Well I would have rather Canelo smashed Billy Joe Sniffles to pieces but Billy Joe can't get out of his own way, keeps getting into trouble making excuses. Benavidez can't even make weight at SMW, so he's out of the picture, for now at least, at least until he can prove that he can make weight and earn a title shot. Plant has stated in his post fight interview he is not ready to fight Canelo, he needed time off or whatever he said. Callum Smith looked hideous in his last match according to some he got a gift decision vs Ryder. So who exactly is Canelo supposed to fight? A 35 and 1/2 year old Light Heavyweight with only 15 pro fights after Canelo has been criticized for knocking out a 36 year old Light Heavyweight and not fighting enough guys his age?

 

I already said in another thread that given the circumstances the Ryder fight would be a good one. Now I dont know if DAZN would green light this fight.
But Yildirim vs Canelo is atrocious

 

Well the problem with that is that Ryder doesn't have a title. So Canelo would be defending his regular WBA Title vs a guy who just lost to Callum Smith instead of fighting for the vacant WBC World Title? Not only that but Ryder has 5 losses, he has decision losses to Rocky Fielding, Jack Arnfield, Billy Joe Saunders, and was knocked out by Nick Blackwell.

I understand that many feel that Ryder deserved to beat Callum Smith and got robbed, but if you're Canelo why would you fight Ryder who doesn't have anything to offer, a guy with 5 losses, as opposed to fighting for the vacant WBC Title?

I don't see how it's atrocious. You'd rather want to see Canelo fight a guy who has 5 losses and is 3 years older than the #1 contender?

 

Artur could take Pollo & Yildirim in the same night without breaking a sweat. Face it your hero is a cherry picker& a PROVEN peds cheater

 

What would happen to Artur if he had to drop down a weight class and fight Canelo at 168 like Dawson did for Ward? I bet Canelo would be criticized a lot if that happened, a lot more than Ward was criticized when he fought Dawson at 168.

 

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