Is Juan Manuel Marquez an atg?

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think so. Reminds me a bit of Emile Griffith. Not brilliant in any category but was very good at everything. Thoughts?
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He was on the pound-for-pound type lists from 2004/2005 until his retirement with very little time off. That's a decade. He was an ATG, yeah.
     
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  3. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yup. Clearly surpassed the other Mexican very goods of the era like Barrera and Morales.
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Definitely.
     
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  5. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Absolutely. Marquez>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pacquaio for my money.

    Marquez legacy suffers from being ducked by everyone, neither Hamed, MAB or Morales wanted any for years and having shitty management. Pacquaio ducked the rubber match until Marquez was ancient and still got schooled to **** before Daddy Arum bought the jugdes. What does Papa Marquez do, does he cry? Give up? Say he can outbox Pac again only to be robbed again? No he says 'THIS IS SPARTA, MOTHER****ER', and decapitates the WHOLE OF BOXING
     
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  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he is. One of the best Mexican fighters of all time in my opinion. KOing an ATG legend in brutal fashion already makes you an ATG.
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ummm he was definitely brilliant in the counter punching and combination punching category.
     
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  8. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    His constant dominance at FW, SWF and LW gets massively underrated too.

    The fact they didn't look for Pacquaio Marquez 5 speaks a 1000 words
     
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  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Pac was hoping to get another rematch with JMM, seeing as he always granted JMM's wishes for rematches. JMM decided against it and wisely retired in good health. It is ironic how JMM, after KOing Pac cold, ends up getting schooled by Bradley (who would later get beat by Pac twice) in his next fight. Styles always makes fights.
     
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  10. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No question whatsoever.
     
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  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Easily yes
     
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  12. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yes I think so, I wouldn't say he completely shits on Barrera and Morales though, especially Morales.
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yes, but he's probably on the low end. Gets overrated a bit in this forum, imo.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He's a great, but imo he's behind his peers such as Floyd, Pacquiao, MAB, Morales
     
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  15. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    JMM never got schooled by Bradley, he outlanded him but Bradley did shake up JMM more being naturally bigger
     
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