Wilders title run v vitalis title run

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Who's defences are better? Being honest...

  1. Wilder

  2. Vitali

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  1. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Wilder

    Stiverne- 24-1-1
    Molina - 23-2
    Duhaupas- 32-2
    Szpilka- 20-1
    Arreola- 36-4-1
    Washington- 18-0-1
    Stiverne- 25-1-1
    Ortiz - 28-0
    Fury -27-0 (draw)
    Breazeale- 20-1
    Ortiz - 31-1

    Vitali

    Peter 30-1
    Gomez 44-1
    Kingpin Johnson- 20-0-1
    Sosnowski 45-2-1
    Briggs 55-5-1
    Solis -17-0
    Adamek 44-1
    Chisora 15-2
    Charr 21-0

    Genuinely leaning towards wilder,......
     
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  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Names alone hold little meaning. Vitali dominated nearly his entire list hardly losing rounds while Wilder was outboxed by just about everyone including a seventy one year old Ortiz before landing his war crime of a right hand.
     
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  3. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Briggs and prime Adamek are arguably better than anyone on Widers resume. Also it’s not just who he beat but how he did it. You got Wilder struggling and going life and death with the Molina and Washington’s of boxing meanwhile Vitali beats everyone comfortably and either KO’s them or schools them without dropping more than a round or two. Vitali levels above.
     
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  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder lost the first Fury fight. Can’t get past that.
     
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  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Well that's all he needed to beat ortiz twice, salvage a draw v fury (I had it for fury), breazeale etc

    Names do mean something when it comes to quality. Would sosnowski, adamek, chisora, charr beat ortiz? I doubt it
     
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  6. Eggman

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    I seriously doubt Briggs would lay a glove on fury, ortiz would beat him. In fact that Briggs would probably only beat Molina and stiverne 2nd fight version. Maybe szpilka
     
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  7. Eggman

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    Agree but it's on record as a draw so cant change it
     
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  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Exactly. Not sure why this point is so hard for a lot of people to see.
     
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  9. The Real Lance

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    It's easier to hate when you leave pertinent details off.
     
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  10. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Well who does sosnowski , briggs, charr, kingpin johnson beat out of Wilders run?
     
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  11. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    I strongly dislike wilder, theres no agenda. But the defences are very similar in levels
     
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  12. MVC!

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    WILDER...
     
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  13. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Vitali’s... to this day!!!

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  14. Eggman

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    Wilder does make me cringe. However out the 2 his double win over ortiz is better than any on Vitalis. Maybe 30-1 peter could beat him
     
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  15. The Long Count

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