Dillian Whyte waive rematch clause - Usyk vs Povetkin instead?

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Usyk vs Povetkin

Poll closed Jan 8, 2022.
  1. Usyk KO/TKO

    8 vote(s)
    22.9%
  2. Usyk Decision

    23 vote(s)
    65.7%
  3. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  4. Povetkin KO/TKO

    2 vote(s)
    5.7%
  5. Povetkin Decision.

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I've seen a few articles that those in the background are keen to get Fury and Joshua sorted. Without the Whyte fight, the only potential stumbling block to make this fight happen is Usyk's mandatory challenge, which, lets face it, is not yet deserved!

    In my opinion, Whyte shouldn't exercise his rematch clause vs Povetkin so quickly. Povetkin's style and talent is all wrong for Whyte with his weaknesses, which I don't see him patching up in 10-12 weeks of training. If Whyte loses again it could seriously mess him up mentally. I think he should take a step back, accept what's happened as a learning curve, and also recognise that his chances of beating Fury in his current state and form is slim to none. Whyte's best chance of ever getting a title are when Fury retires and he can have another crack at someone like Joshua.

    Usyk stepping aside from the WBO would be an honourable thing for him to do to allow this monster fight to go ahead, and he'd have a very good chance of beating Povetkin for a mandatory chance via WBC anyway.

    I think it would also be fantastic for the fans. What an amazing fight.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Whyte was beating Pov before he got caught, Pov didn`t lok good at all, Usyk boxed Hunter`s ears off and Hunter probably outpointed Pov so Usyk would toy with Pov now, Povetkin is no longer an elite heavyweight at all, Whyte proved that.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Whyte lost the first three rounds, the first KD was flash, the only real success he had was the legit KD at the end of the 4th.
     
  4. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin is a shadow of his former self but still a solid top 5 hw. He has the same problem today as he had throughout his career, the top 2 hws are a few levels above him.
     
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    You don't know what would have happened later on in the fight vs Whyte. Povetkin could have easily made a comeback, and if he hadn't have knocked whyte clean out with that punch he could have scored more knockdowns very easily. Povetkin struggled with Whyte's reach and height but I think it's safe to say, on the evidence of the KO, he could have found a way around it eventually, especially when Whyte started to be more aggressive.

    He may not be what he used to be, but some of his quality is still definitely there, and while it is, you never write povetkin off.

    He's been rattled by most of the people he's fought recently, and there's reason he's won most of them, because he looks vulnerable, but he gets back up as if he's not even hurt and fights his way back to win.

    Povetkin drew the hunter fight because he came back into it as the fight progressed. All these garbage arguments that he's finished and will waste away as fights progress are bull.
     
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  6. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte didn’t look good either splayed out on the canvas.
    He lost the mandatory he shouldn’t be any where near Fury.
     
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  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    LOL.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I saw this yesterday but I don't know how much truth there is to it. Hearn wants the rematch for November or December if not and I don't get the impression he's going to back down.

    Russia’s recently crowned WBC Interim Champion Povetkin may face Usyk of Ukraine
    On the night of August 22, Russia’s former Heavyweight World Champion Alexander Povetkin defeated Britain’s Dillian Whyte in the fifth round with a technical knockout to win the WBC interim heavyweight champion title

    MOSCOW, August 24. /TASS/. Russia’s WBC (the World Boxing Council) Interim Heavyweight Champion Alexander Povetkin is likely to hold his next fight against Ukraine’s Oleksandr Usyk in case a return bout with Britain’s Dillian Whyte is not scheduled, Andrei Ryabinsky, the head of the World of Boxing Promotions Company, told TASS on Monday.

    On the night of August 22, Russia’s former Heavyweight World Champion Alexander Povetkin defeated Britain’s Dillian Whyte in the fifth round with a technical knockout to win the WBC interim heavyweight

    The interim title allows the Russian boxer to fight for the WBC heavyweight title, which is currently held by UK’s Tyson Fury. The British fighter is scheduled to face Deontay Wilder of the United States in December and Povetkin will face the winner of that bout.

    However, earlier reports suggested that in line with his current contract, Povetkin was to hold a return fight with Whyte.


    "We are eyeing all other possible variants, but in line with our existing contract we are scheduled for a return bout with Whyte," Ryabinsky said. "We are now in negotiations about the next fight and, in theory, it can be the bout against Usyk."

    "It could have been one of the most interesting fights between the two Olympic champions with an outstanding boxing background," he continued. "Sasha [Povetkin] wants to keep boxing with the best opponents and Usyk is one of the best."

    "This fight can only be hindered by the fact that Povetkin and Usyk are on very good terms with each other and it would not be good to see them testing their [friendly] relationship in the ring," Ryabinsky said.

    "On the other hand, this fight may possibly become an outstanding performance with the two boxers, who have the respect for each other," he added.

    Ukraine’s Usyk holds an unblemished record of 17 wins, including 13 by KOs, in his professional boxing career. He is the gold medalist of the 2012 Summer Olympic Games in London in the heavyweight division.

    The Povetkin-Whyte bout was initially scheduled to be held on May 2 in Manchester. However, the fight was postponed indefinitely because of the ongoing global spread of the novel coronavirus.

    In late May, various sports media reported that a mandatory challenge bout for the World Boxing Council (WBC) belt between Russian heavyweight boxer Alexander Povetkin and Britain’s Dillian Whyte would be organized either on August 8 or 15 without spectators in attendance due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Dillian ‘The Body Snatcher’ Whyte, 32, has now a personal record of 27 wins (18 by KOs) and two defeats throughout his professional boxing career.

    Povetkin is known to the fans as the ‘Russian Vityaz,’ and boasts a personal record of 36 wins (25 KOs), two defeats and one draw throughout his career. The Russian boxer also won the gold at the 2004 Summer Olympic Games in Athens.

    Before squaring off Whyte, Povetkin fought in December 2019 against US heavyweight Michael ‘The Bounty’ Hunter. Povetkin and Hunter fought to a draw on December 7, 2019 in Saudi Arabia in the WBA (the World Boxing Association) Heavyweight Title Eliminator bout. The judges’ scorecards read 115-113 for Povetkin, 115-113 for Hunter and 114-114.

    Povetkin celebrated his 40th birthday on September 2, 2019, two days after his win over Britain’s Hughie Fury. Late last year, Povetkin underwent a surgery on his elbows and then announced that he was "not thinking about wrapping up his sports career."
     
  9. Robney

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    Whyte would be absolutely bonkers if he waves his right on the rematch. Why would he?
    There's probably even more money involved this time around. He has a very good chance, even if he doesn't make adjustments, to beat old Povetkin in the rematch, and if he doesn't it will take a while to get back in the mix.
    Sure, the fight was close up until the 4th, and then the 5th completely turned things around again, but can you imagine what the scores would be like if this fight had progressed like the first 3? It would have been something like 118-110 with those 3 biased judges in place.
    If Whyte doesn't get sparked in the rematch, he wins on the cards. Easier said then done, but still the reality.
     
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  10. deadACE

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    If you think Whyte was 3 rounds down going into the 4th, then I suggest watching a different sport cos boxing is not for you lol
     
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  11. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It absolutely stinks.
    Whyte lost the mandatory so he shouldn’t fight Fury, period.
    Whyte’s role in all this is simply to keep Fury away from Joshua.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How did he lose the first 3 rounds? Povetkin hardly landed, Whyte was landing jabs, it was a tight cagey fight until the fourth.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He didn`t look elite to me in either fight, very easy to hit.
     
  14. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    But still capable of landing the punches that matter. He didn't start well vs Whyte, but all I'm saying is never write him off.