It's entirely possible that no active HW passes Vlad. K in greatness

I'm sorry but I can't and never will classify Wlad Klitschko as a "great." He was a good fighter for a very long time and undefeated for a very long time but it was against probably the worst and least talented/skilled HW division i have ever seen.

 

Awful take.

 

Joshua already has a deeper resume, Fury is close and has 2 better single wins. They also managed to achieve this within the Queensbury rules. Both beat any version of Wlad.

 

What about this current division? It's composed of 40 year olds from Wlad's division.
Helenuis KOed top 10 Kownatsky.
Povetkin KOed #2 ring HW Whyte.
Pulev is in ring top 10.
Ortiz is successful at 50.(was hiding somewhere during Wlad's reign)
Chisora is still fighting etc..

 

Yes just as bad I would say, maybe a little better.

 

This.. Wlads run is marred by excessive cheating. .

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p...WKUdIBQF2zQ27H9rFQ6xjduVqv1_p-KCutYzXjJnDLy4I

Fury will be remembered for producing one of the greatest performances ever in the division. Great fights and performances is what people remember.

 

Wlad:

High heels

3 inches of Ring foam

Headbutts

Jab and grab clincher

Scales rigged

Opponent pusher for knockdowns

Fury took him apart. Don't try and play tricks or makes excuses with Fury, he will notice and use it against you.

All began in 2011 when Wlad try'd to intimate that 22 year old kid by staring at him in camp & Fury had none of it calling him out then destroyed him in a sauna.

Fury has Ali levels of confidence, maybe even more. The things that have come to pass with Fury make you wonder if there truly is a higher power. Destined to be. The greatest born and bred fighting man to ever grace a ring...and he's only just got started. AJ won't touch him.

 

Joshua might have a case if he beats Pulev, Ruiz in a rubber match, Fury, Wilder, Hunter, and Usyk.

 

People complain about fighters stacking the deck, but I can’t think of another fighter that had referees enforcing their own personal rulebook. Wlad could get away with whatever he liked in Germany, and his team manipulated pretty much every variable right down to the tautness of the ring canvas. I respect the man, but that ten year run has a huge asterisk next to it.

 

He really doesn’t have Ali level of confidence though does he...He's admitted himself he has depression and anxiety, feels insecure a lot of the time. His mental strength/health is not great by his own admission. It’s all just bravado, you can see right through it. He’s a great fighter but he seems to be a really insecure guy.

Ali is nothing like Fury personality-wise, Fury does a bad impression of him essentially.

 

Fury in the ring is untouchable mentally.

Just because he has anxiety, depression and bipolar disorder doesn't mean he lacks confidence.

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Lennox Lewis was the Klitschko Brothers Daddy

 

Fury beat Wlad in 2015, Joshua beat Wlad in 2017.
When you're around 40, almost 2 years is a big deal.
Plus the loss definitely affected Wlad's confidence.

 

Fury is the one with the better resume

 

...and yet, Fury still ducked the rematch