Peak Louis vs Peak Marciano.

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  1. 70sFan865

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    He beat much better fighter than Walcott or 37 years old Louis though.
     
  2. 70sFan865

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    Schmeling won two fights, first officially and the second one was a robbery.
     
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  3. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Better fighter like who?
    Ulc-nothing good but average contender
    Walker-old washed WW
    Sharkey was good nad he lost twice!
    Max Baer good fighter with one punch?
    Yeah right they are better than those 2 Masters.Walcott was so old tha beat Charles and Lozis was so old that beat Walcott and Bivins!Yeah right
     
  4. mcvey

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    His current form was excellent was it not ,7 successive wins,5 by stoppage.Who was a better contender at the time? He was the number 1 contender and had been the year previously.What would have been said of Louis had he not defended against him,the only man to have beaten him?
     
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  5. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Nope he didn't!Sharkey won eberysingle round to the point of low blow when he was DQed!
    Sharkey won the first three rounds, but he was disqualified after he landed a low blow late in the fourth round. Schmeling became the first boxer to win the World Heavyweight Championship on a foul.
    The split decision in favor of Sharkey was controversial. After the decision was announced, Schmeling's manager, Joe Jacobs, shouted into the radio microphone, "We wuz robbed!"
    He was robbed be ause he said that?
     
  6. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Yes complete antithesis of Marciano but similar style!He was ine handed counterpuncher wwith questionable chin.
    Marciano was two hand iron pucnher with iron chin and power while Schmelling was a bit more boxer than puncher
     
  7. 70sFan865

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    Actually, Schmeling won the first round. Which means that there was 2-1 lead for Sharkey before the low blow. Are you going to tell me that Sharkey proved his superiority in 3 rounds?
    He was robbed because I watched the fight.
     
  8. Charlietf

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    And Ali did beat Frazier,Foreman and Norton in the 70s... So what? STILL HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME.
     
  9. 70sFan865

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    Schmeling beat Joe Louis, much better version of Joe Louis than Marciano faced. This win alone is better than any of Marciano.

    Then Schmeling had a lot of solid wins - Stribling, Sharkey, Hamas, Uzcudun, Walker, Neusel.

    Listen, I'm not saying that Schmeling was better than Marciano but what he did to Louis in the first fight wouldn't be replicated by Rocky. Rocky fought much differently than Schmeling and he wouldn't try to outbox and counterpunch Louis.
     
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  10. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Yes he did and nope Schmelling accordin to eye witnesses and scorecards didn't won any single round to the DQ.
    Sharkey defintely proves his superiority but also his stupidity because instead finishing what he started he low blowed but Schmelling acted a bit more to win the fight.
    He was robbed be ause you watched the fight?And who are you?Judge?
    You said that only because you want to provr Schmelling was good but he wasn't anything than german hype.
    To my eye Sharkey's jab and activity kept him in the fight in a manner of speaking, he still lost two thirds of the rounds and took a severe trashing from Schmeling's right hand. In no way could a impartial observer whole actually watched the fight and really paid attention see this battle in favor of Sharkey. But he did win rounds to my eye.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Do you think Schmeling and Marciano were similar in styles?
    Yes?
    No?
     
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  12. 70sFan865

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    It were three rounds and only thrid round was clearly for Sharkey. Have you seen them? Sharkey wasn't close of stopping Schmeling so why should we care about such a small sample of size?
    So you agree that Schmeling should have won the second fight?
    I never said that Schmeling won all the rounds, it was good competitive battle. Schmeling won more rounds though and landed harder blows. It was clear decision for Max to me, although Sharkey was game all fight long.
     
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  13. Charlietf

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    Nice mcvey bravo. Change the topic when you knew that i was right.
    Tell me you first? Was Schmeling past his prime in the rematch against Louis?
    Yes?
    No?
     
  14. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Schmelling was old and Louis was green and inexperienced.Louis whom Marciano faced who beat Walcott would beat that Louis easier than Schmelling did.
    This win is not better than two over Walcott but Charles!
    None of them was acutally goodcontender except Uz who had best win over ancient Wills and green Max Baer.
    Walker should not even been mentioned here because he was ancient fat Welterweight and it was disgrace for Schmelling!
    Well you don't know that since he outboxed Charles and beat him then.
    Marciano could replicate that even easier because he had better defense,two fist power,chin,stamina and determination ehich old Max didn't have.
     
  15. SerbianLoudmouth

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    It were third rounds and offical scorecards said that Sharkey won all 3 of them!
    I saw them and Sharkey clearly win a of them jn may eyes and in eyes of judges.
    Sharkey wasn't close to stolling him but was clearly beating him and outboxing him ehich shows he would won that night clearly.I care because he beat Schmelling to the point od DQ which was even fake act by Max.
    Nope I am not I just said it was close but Sharkey clearly won and controled the fight simple with a jab.It was nit a robbery since only one round and it could be a draw but Sharkey clearly won the fight.