How good was Jermaine Taylor really ?

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  1. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    I scored it 6-6. Spinks had a negative style but he was pretty good too.
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Good fighter but nothing special.
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Again, I challenge ANYBODY to list me the 7 rounds you scored for Hopkins in either/both fights. I’ll save you the hassle, you can’t...
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He was good enough to win a debatable decision against a 40 year old Hopkins.

    Thats all he was good enough to do.
     
  5. bowlingkid09

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    Are you really that confident that Taylor won both fights unquestionably? So you scored rounds for Taylor for simply throwing and hitting thin air? Sure Hopkins threw next to nothing but sometimes the few clean punches that were landed belonged to Hopkins. Scoring 7 rounds for Hopkins in either fight is far from impossible. In both fights, Hopkins arguably won 5 of the last 6 and definitely won round 5 in both fights. Hell, even some of the early rounds had Hopkins doing the cleaner work despite having a very low workrate. Yes, I can understand scoring both fights for Taylor based on each round in isolation. The thing is that as a whole, Taylor took much more punishment than he dished out in both fights.
     
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  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    The thing is, that’s not how fights are scored, so again if you can list me the 7 rounds you scored for Hopkins we can discuss.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    That wasn't really the point in that fight. Issue is that he got outboxed by AA... a guy who often needed to bail himself out with that nuclear punching power, but in this case it was just the cherry on top to remove all doubt who was superior.
     
  8. bowlingkid09

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    I gave Hopkins rounds 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 in the first fight. Hopkins was simply landing the cleaner shots. I still have to rewatch the rematch.
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Yeah I simply disagree, if you try and find rounds for Hopkins I guess you could make the case for 7 and 8, but I think Hopkins gave away the fight with inactivity, plain and simple. It was a slow dull fight but I just can’t give Hopkins much credit for how he fought the fight outside of the last few rounds where he really put his foot on the gas and performed to his potential. Prior to that he was meh at best. You can’t give away 8 rounds then press the action the last three and win, the math just doesn’t work.
     
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  10. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha! You're not going to trick me into watching those 2 god awful fights again.

    Nice try though.
     
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  11. bowlingkid09

    bowlingkid09 Member Full Member

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    Gotcha, it was really more of a case of Hopkins losing a close decision because he left way too many rounds in doubt than Taylor being the better man. I still can not call the fight a robbery nor the second fight which I thought Hopkins won narrowly as well.
     
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  12. bowlingkid09

    bowlingkid09 Member Full Member

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    Horrible fights!
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Please. He took some serious beatings before Pavlik broke him down.
    And the other 2 KO's were in the 12th rounds.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I did do so in one of the fights. Not bothered to check em again as I tried to do so a few months back and got bored.
    I think I had the first fight for Hopkins and second as a draw some years ago.
     
  15. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think I had Taylor 7-5 in Hopkins I and a 6-6 in Hopkins II. They were bad fights and I'm not going to watch them again, tho.
     
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