Oleksandr Usyk vs Joe Frazier

Is that his evidence that the only guy to beat prime Ali would struggle? Does he think Gassiev would beat prime Ali too?

 

I don't think Usyk hits as hard as Haye or Whyte. Though I could see a stoppage late with the ref stopping it with Chisora still on his feet or the corner throwing in the towel. I'd be surprised if Usyk got a clean KO or TKO stoppage.

 

Your money would be on a sloth if it fought after the 90s.

 

Everyone gets one, but I'd have and have always called Ali prime for Frazier I.

He was coming off his two best wins since Patterson, looked excellent in stopping Bonavena and Quarry. Also, his lay off was only three years and he'd fought 18 rounds professionally before fighting Joe. Not to mention the three training camps. Ali was also still in his 20s and would score his best wins years later.

Great win for Frazier, who, IMO, deserved a draw in the 2nd fight (or a DQ win) and could have well won the third too. He wanted to continue but his trainer didn't let him, whereas Ali didn't want to continue but his trainer forced him to. Plus the Thrilla was pretty close on points at that point.

 

You call me out for a lack of knowledge yet your spouting off about today's cruiserweights being better than the heavyweights of the 70s. That's as close to a prime Ali as anyone's ever beaten. Stop playing dumb

 

Lol. You've already embarrassed yourself I don't need your validation

 

Much respect to Frazier, but I pick Usyk by UD.

Too much talent and skills.

 

Usyk would UD Frazier. Joe would have a really hard time pinning Usyk down.

 

But he could pin Muhammad Ali down?

 

Even if Usyk proves to be the best Heavyweight of this lot, I'd still pick Frazier.

He's all wrong for the Ukrainian.

 

Quite confident in picking Frazier. He was able to take Ali's firepower to get inside, and Ali hit much harder than Usyk and had a much better jab. He'd do a number on Usyk before knocking him out.