George Foreman 1973 vs Mike Tyson 1988, 15 Rounds.

'88 Tyson would have a chance to beat '90-91 (best 2nd version) of Foreman on points, but I doubt it because Foreman's style is all wrong for him.

'88 Tyson would lose to prime Foreman 99/100 by some type of stoppage. Tyson had a great chin, but nobody can take a steady diet of Foreman uppercuts and keep pressuring ahead.

 

What did I say about Foreman?

 

Could Foreman stop Ruddock without going to the canvas? Based on what we saw with Lyle, it's a possibility that Foreman has to get up to win.

Could Tyson beat Lyle without going to the deck? Tyson stops him even more emphatically than Foreman did and without all the fuss. Tyson took bigger shots against Ruddock than Foreman took against Lyle

 

All I know is that if they could fight in their primes, I'd make a **** ton of money betting on this fight from posters on here

 

One of my favorite fantasy fights is 1927 Jack Sharkey vs 1988 Mike Tyson. If I ever come across a magic genie and get granted 3 wishes, that will be one of my wishes.

 

Im surprised this thread is lasting this long, this match up is made all the time lol

 

Well Bruno almost stopped him and Holyfield/Douglas and Lennox did that too and they were not near Foreman chin,power and strenght

 

That's it for me, it's not merely the fact that he was similar to Frazier in dimensions it's more the fact that he was poor in the clinches and easily manhandled.

You push him back and offset him and he has nothing, Foreman would push him back and land shots he's never felt before. Those hooks and uppercuts to the head and body would double him in half.

 

Power - Advantage to Foreman although there's not much in it
Speed - Tyson
Defence - Tyson
Skill - Tyson, not saying George didn't have very good technique but MT in his prime was one of the most skilled HW's there ever was
Chin - Prime for prime it's Tyson, old George is a different matter
Size - Foreman
Stamina - About equal, slight advantage to Tyson
Heart - Both bullies who thrived on intimidation, about equal

I'd put my money on Tyson, Foreman for all his strengths was just too upright and easy to hit for me, the Tyson-Frazier comparisons are IMO mostly nonsense, Frazier was predictable, George could anticipate and prepare for each Frazier attack but against a prime Tyson with his lightning speed he would find it very difficult to do the same.

 

ALMOST STOPPED!? Bro, what fight did you watch? Tyson was barely stunned for 1 second and Bruno was trying to do everything to stop the nigh-omnipotent being Mike Tyson from continuing the onslaught he was putting on. His power was so devastating that Bruno was fearing for his life in the ring.

 

Styles make fights. This one is a prime example.
In my opinion Foreman manhandles Tyson
keeps him off balance by using that God given brute
strength lays him out in 6rds.
Tyson had many advantages over Foreman.
Hand speed? check.
Foot speed? check.
Defensively? check.
Overall skills? check.
But his disadvantages would be the difference in this fight.
Height and brute strength.
It can be argued fighters like Norton and Frazier had overall
better skills than Foreman,
But what were the results of their fights with Foreman?
What Foreman did in the boxing ring was totally unique to
him and his attributes. Tyson wouldn't be able to set his feet
against prime Foreman, he would get pushed off balance anytime
he was in close, nullifying what he did best those blistering combinations
he was capable of.
Tyson also never faced a fighter capable of intimidating him the way
he intimidated so many others.
How would Tyson deal with the bigger stronger bully?
His history suggest not very well. I believe strong intimidating
PROVEN great fighters like Foreman and Liston would throw
Tyson off his game, make him hesitant. Against fighters
like Foreman or Liston that would be disastrous.
Foreman also is underappreciated for his skill level
and endurance. Everyone saw the Ali fight and thinks
he had major issues in those area's.
But he got baited into trying to knock Ali out cold,
trying to prove a point to him, he fell right into the
trap by the greatest heavyweight in history.
Tyson couldn't do what Ali did. He wouldn't play mind games
that way. In fact, he probably would be the victim of
Foreman's mind games.
Brute force defeats skills in this one.

 

Tyson was not sensational Saturday night, merely very good. He came out, as always, looking for the quick knockout. And for a few seconds it appeared as if he might break the all-time record for the fastest knockout in heavyweight title fight history, the 55-second KO James Jeffries pinned on Jack Finnegan in 1900. The champion, fighting for the first time since his first-round knockout of Michael Spinks last June 27, had Bruno on the deck almost before the timekeeper had put down his hammer to start the first round. In Tyson's corner, Bruno caught a short right hand on the jaw and went down. He took a standing-8 count from Steele and arose clear-headed. He promptly stung Tyson with a left hook. Tyson, obviously in quest of a quicker victory than his 91-second knockout of Spinks, tore into Bruno. But after the knockdown, he appeared to revert to his old ways. He threw leaping left hooks and missed wildly, twice almost losing his feet. With one miss, he spun himself completely around on the ropes and wound up facing the spectators. At that instant, Bruno hit him on the back of the head, and Steele deducted a point for the foul. Then, late in the round, came Bruno's moment, a moment they'll be talking about in London pubs for a generation or so. He hit Tyson with a workmanlike right hand that for an instant immobilized the champion, then followed it with a left hook that caught Tyson squarely. The champion's knees buckled and he backed up. Although the Englishmen in the audience were roaring him on, Bruno could not follow up, and the round ended soon after. It was his last opportunity. After the fight, Tyson praised his challenger's efforts. "It was harder than the punch (a right uppercut) that (Tony) Tucker got me with," he said, referring to a punch Tucker landed in 1987, when Tyson unified the heavyweight championship. Bruno's punch, and the fact that he took Tyson's best shots to the head and body for more than four rounds, may have taken at least a little of the glitter off Tyson's victory. "Frank tried hard and it wound up just as we thought it would, but I think Frank gave hope to a lot of heavyweights tonight--that Mike Tyson is not the monster a lot of people think he is," said one British reporter, Ken Jones. Indeed, for parts of the second, third and fourth rounds Tyson reverted to the Mike Tyson of the 1984 Olympic team trials, when he was an out-of-control amateur, missing and losing his footing with wild, leaping left hooks. Unfortunately for the 6-foot 4-inch, 228-pound Bruno (32-3), he wasn't mobile or quick enough to take advantage of the numerous opportunities Tyson presented. Bruno was successful, however, at tying up Tyson when he missed with right hands, creating a Greco-Roman wrestling match for much of the time. He was also successful at holding the shorter (5-11) Tyson by the back of the neck in the clinches. One of Tyson's new cornermen, Aaron Snowell, chased Steele across the ring after the third round to complain. In the end, Bruno was overwhelmed. Early in the fifth, Tyson landed a couple of short, hard uppercuts inside, and Bruno's nose began to bleed. Bruno landed punches twice to Tyson's ribs, but seconds later the countdown started. First came a thumping left hook to the jaw that sent Bruno into the ropes near Tyson's corner, and the champion was all over his challenger, measuring his helpless opponent and hitting him like a man chopping a tree with an ax. After Bruno had taken four or five powerful blows to the head, Steele stepped in at 2:55, just as Bruno's trainer, Terry Lawless, was coming through the ropes.
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Tyson power was soo good that Bruno was stopped on his feets while Lewis/Smoth knocked him cold?

 

Lewis could hit as hard as Foreman when he loaded up and no one is convincing me otherwise because I know what my eyes see. Leroy Caldwell who sparred with Bruno and Foreman says that Bruno is in a similar category of power as Foreman.

 

Experts also rank the advatages as follows: Advantages:
Hand Speed- Tyson, Boxing Ability- Foreman, KO Power-Foreman, Size-Foreman, Defense-Foreman, Endurance-No Advantage, Adaptability-Forrman, Foot Speed-Tyson, Strength-Foreman, Jab-Foreman, Cuts-No Advantage, Reach-Foreman(80”) and Tyson(71”), Body Attack-Foreman:
Total: 9-2-2 for Foreman
Chin prime for prime Tyson?
Only Tyson fan could say that since Tyson was stopped few times by non punchers but Foreman only by Ali.Tyson never had chin close to prime Foreman let alone old Foreman.
Heart?How many times Tyson got from the floor to win?Never.
Foreman did so Foreman had heart advantage.

Power?

George Foreman
Record: 84.0% KO Ratio (81 Fights, 68 KOs)

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Foreman used to lift 350lb cows on his shoulder and punch 300pb with man holding off the chain.
Tyson is not near powerful as older one but the younger George?

Speed won't matter which Floyd Patterson proves against Liston.Faster you came to Foreman faster you get knocked cold and no swarmer would beat Forrman let alone Tyson.
Tyson is more predictable than Frazier eho was unorthodox while Tyson always punch combos.
Foreman strenght and grappling would matter since he would bully Tyson around with his tactics.
Foreman would beat every swarmer including Tyson 100 times of 100 and dealt with that!

 

The problem is what happens when Tyson lands and he will land. Lyle had Foreman to and fro with his punches and don't try to tell me Lyle hit harder than Tyson. Film and his ring results show otherwise. At least the Foreman that Lyle fought would have been stopped by Tyson. I'm sorry, but I don't see pushing Frazier back as the ultimate feat of strength that proves beyond all shadow of a doubt that one would destroy a peak Tyson. It's like trying to convince me that Johannson would take Tyson out because, well......he took out Patterson and didn't Patterson and Tyson have similar styles?