George Foreman 1973 vs Mike Tyson 1988, 15 Rounds.

Lewis could not hit not near as older George but prime one?
When Holyfield was asked to name hardest puncher he mentioned Foreman,Tua and Tyson not Lewis.
Prime Foreman hit harder than der and der hit alot harder than Lewis which Holyfield said.
Prime Foreman>>>Older>>>>Lewis.
Leroy Caldwell never said that and yo udon't need to lie.Leroy spared with Frazier,Foreman and Shavers and said Foreman and Shavers hit him the hardest.
However Joe Bugner who faced both Lyle and Bruno said Lyle was stronger and Lyle wasn't strong as Foreman.
Foreman>>>Lyle>>>>Bruno.

 

He did hit harder and he was a bigger man than Tyson with bigger reach which helped him to punch George while Tyson had even shorter reach than Frazier and even Frazier couldn't reach Foreman.
Douglas got Tyson and knocked him out and Douglas isn't Lyle.

 

Like I said, Lyles ring results and what I see on film say differently. So unless you have some as of yet unseen footage of Lyle stopping top level 200+ pound opposition or a carefully conducted scientific test of their respective punching powers, you're not changing my mind about Tyson being a harder puncher. I really don't care what an out of shape Frazier was unable to do to be quite honest. Especially when comparing him to a 1988 Mike Tyson whom I think was generally a bigger H2H threat than even a prime Frazier. At least in the early to mid rounds.

 

You're also not convincing me that prime Foreman hit WAY HARDER than prime Lewis. I'm sorry, stopping Frazier, Roman and Norton just don't do it for me. Especially since they weren't laid out unconscious. We may as well agree to disagree on that right now. The film I've seen of 70s Foreman and 90s Lewis in no way, shape or form verifies Foreman to be a WAY HARDER puncher than Lewis.

And if we are to accept testimony, we cannot just accept Holyfields testimony while ignoring Leroy Caldwell's testimony. Either we're accepting testimony or we aren't.

 

Was Foreman at the top of his game when he fought Lyle or was
still dealing with the loss to Ali which effected him to the point
of the 5 boxers in one day fiasco, the weird behavior prior to
and after Jimmy Young then disappearing act for 10 yrs.

Everyone who fought Foreman said he was the physically
strongest heavyweight they faced . Hell, Holyfield said that about
a well past prime Foreman,he also said Foreman hit him the hardest.
Holyfield faced, Cooper, Bowe, Lewis,Tyson,and Mercer all noted
punchers so it was no aberration what he did to Frazier, that's was
simply how he fought. So if their was a physically stronger heavyweight
without steroids. Name him.

 

Lyle was for sure harder puncher than Tyson and bigger man with bigger reach.
Seeing skmething on film does nkt mean that someone is better than other like Patterson was better on film than Liston and Quarry but he lost against them.
Lyle stopped few quality opponents over 200lb who were also good and durable fighters:
Scrap Johnson-never knocked cold
Buster Mathis-230lb peek a boo user in 3 rounds who gave Frazier and Quarry hell
Jack O'Halloran 6ft7 250lb very good fighter
Ernie Shavers-the hardest puncher
Boone Kirkmam-top contender
Amd beat so many over 220lb good fighters like Oscar Bonavena,Joe Bugner,Ellis....that proves he was as good puncher as Tyson but even a stronger and bigger guy than Tyson himself with alot better jab and right hand.
Outshaped Frazier whom Foreman beat?
Same outshaped Frazier who after that stopped Ellis,Quarry,Bugner and went to hell in Manilla with Ali?
He wasn't that good but outshaped?
Tyson was not that big threat not even than prime Frazier because that threat couldn't stop Tillis whom Morrison,Holyfield and Whiterspoon knocked.Do you think Tillis would have chance surviving Frazier early or late?He was not near level of Ellis or Bugner and Frazier beat them badly.
Yes Frazier was more dangerous than Tyson and Lyle is more dangerous than Tyson not only because his punch but because his reach,jab and right hand.

 

Again Foreman hit harder than Lewis and like you mentioned these guys I could mention that Lewis wasn't able to stop ancient Mercer,fat Tua and couldn't KO cold even chima chinned Morrison and ancient Holyfield.
Foreman defintley hit harder according to Holyfield amd Morrison and that was what like 50 years old Foreman.
I'm sorry but stopping iron chin Chuvalo,Frazier,Peralta and knocking Norton and Lyle cold convince me that he was prime for prime harder puncher than Lennox whom best wins were 40 years old Tyson,Holyfkeld and Mercer and AiDs Morrison.
That all convince me that he was harder puncher than Lennox prime for prime.

 

Lie since Leroy never sparred with Bruno and Leroy ended his carrer in late 70s when Bruno wasn't even a pro yet.
We can accept testimony of peoe who really fought rather than your lies about sparring that never happened.

 

He may not have been at the top of his game but personally, whether they fought in 74 or 76, I don't see Lyle ever being a walk in the park opponent. Plus, he is the only opponent we have to work with when examining how he does when up against a man who can hit him with enough power to put him on the deck.

And with or without steroids makes no difference. It's about how strong they are in the ring on fight night. So whether their strength is the result of nature, weight lifting, steroids or black magic sorcery is irrelevant. I do know that Leroy Caldwell who sparred with Bruno and Foreman and Shavers, put Bruno in a comparable class of punching power.

 

Well I know I've seen video of him saying it. So if it's a lie, write to him and call him out on it. Meanwhile, I'll attempt to find the video.

 

So who was physically stronger than Foreman in a boxing
ring? And demonstrated it by the way they fought. I can
point out plenty of evidence where Foreman demonstrated
his physicality and how it helped him win fights.
Who else fought with his style and demonstrated it?
If were talking strictly on how it relates in a boxing ring
as you said.

 

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Bro...sorry but you really are delusional, Tyson TKO'ed Bruno in 8 rounds combined with both fights but it took Lewis 7 rounds and Smith 10 rounds to KO Bruno.

 

maybe 2 rounds- FOREMAN
Leroy Caldwell fixed My girlfriends car like 1997 or so.

 

You are only delusional as every Tyson fan so I must take your insults and put you doen in nice way.
Tyson TKoed Bruno in 8 rounds but....he tkoed him he never knocked him cold.
It tool 7 and 8 rounds for Smith/Lewis to Ko him but they actually knocked him out.
Also aging and past prime Tim Whiterspoon knocked him cold but Tyson didn't and that proves what?
Tyson power is nkt near Foreman and he couldn't beat him except he had Frazier with him and basseball bat.
Foreman would beat him because he is bigger,stronger,larger and had better chin than him and he would do that much easier than Holyfield or Lewis.