Is Ike Ibeabuchi the most physically gifted heavyweight since Ali?

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  1. fcb1068

    fcb1068 Active Member Full Member

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    Ike Ibeabuchi was 6 ft 2 and 240+ pounds. He had power in both hands, all time great stamina, good speed of hand and foot, granite chin, great balance, explosive. Ibeabuchi could even do a pirouette even after many rounds of championship level boxing. At that height and weight he was still built like Adonis (compare him to *6ft 2* Majin Buu lookalike Andy Ruiz Jr). He was 26 years old at the time, and if he reached his prime in his early thirties, he would have been able to carry 250+ pounds easily. Name a more physically gifted heavyweight than Ibeabuchi since Ali?
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield & Fury to name a few.
     
  4. Somali Sanil

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    If he was as physically gifted as you say he would’ve been able to pull away from Tua, who as dangerous as he was could be out boxed regular
     
  5. fcb1068

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    Nope, Tyson was small and couldn't carry any more weight greater than 220 lbs without losing what makes him Tyson. Tyson lacked the size to be an all rounded physically gifted athlete like Ibeabuchi.

    If Tyson was as physically gifted as Ibeabuchi he would not have been roughed up and dominated by Holyfield. I can't see any heavyweight physically dominating Ibeabuchi.
     
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  7. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He seemed somewhat stiff.
     
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  8. HolDat

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    Odd logic
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    If Ike was the most talented HW in 50 years he wouldn't have needed a gift to beat David Tua.
     
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  11. Johnny_B

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    Physically gifted doesn't exclusively mean big.
    Tyson had that unique blend of speed and power that very few boxers in history did, certainly not at HW.
     
  12. Ted Stickles

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    Ike was very gifted but not on an Ali level. Yes he had all of the attributes you mentioned but he lacked character and control due to mental illness.
     
  13. fcb1068

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    I find Ike's case very strange. Tyson who committed **** was in jail for only 4 years, where as Ike was sent to jail for 20+ years because he hired a prostitute who tried to steal his money? All this talk about Ike having mental illness, and I am wondering if it was ever 100% proven by a qualified medical professional? It just seems like an excuse to lock him up indefinitely. Didn't Deontay Wilder attack a prostitute who also tried to steal his money? If Ibeabuchi was American I doubt their justice system would have been so harsh on a star athlete. Let's not forget that Stanford University swimmer that raped a young woman on campus, and not only did he never spend time in Jail but the University tried to cover it up too.
     
  14. Kratos

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    Ali, tyson and roy will always be the top 3 in athletic gifts, hgh and roids or not they had the dna for agility and rhythm.
     
  15. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, I don’t think you realise the extent to which Africans get a totally unfair shake in boxing. They have no money to influence it and they aren’t viewed as a lucrative market so literally any sort of shadiness will be pulled to keep them out of the picture.
     
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