Tyson Fury would beat Mike Tyson

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  1. Tyson379

    Tyson379 Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson was always poor against tall fighters.

    He'd never beat a Klitschko or Fury. Absolutely no chance, unless it was pre-prime Wlad. And Vitali, absolutely no chance in hell. Watch Klitschko-Arreola to see what happens to a small guy rushing in (and Arreola is much bigger than Tyson) and what would happen to their face against Vitali. Besides, Tyson never had much of a chin.
     
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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not really true. Bonecrusher Smith was 6'4", Andrew Golota was 6'4", Toney Tucker 6'5", Mitch Green, was 6'5".
    Basically it was Lennox Lewis which built that reputation.
    Not much of a chin? Jesus christs...
     
  3. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Today? nahhhhh they weight the same
     
  4. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    I'd favor Tyson at this point. More experience taking on taller fighters than Fury taking on anyone who knows how to cut off the ring or who goes to the body. I think Fury is smart and if he got a few rematches he could figure some strategies, but overall just too slow and wide open for Tyson.
     
  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. No way is M.Tyson beating Fury. People are saying he’s gonna chop fury down. Yea ok just like he chopped down Tillis, Tucker, Green, Smith, and Ruddock who turned out to not even be durable or skilled. Only thing is Fury is much better than all of these fighters. I apologize to the fan boys because I’m bashing your hero but Mike isn’t winning this fight. Not surprised by so many people favoring Tyson since he actually gets two boost here, one being the fact that he’s a classic fighter and the other from the fan club
     
  6. BigRobNC

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    He's 50 pounds heavier, but the vast majority of that is fat. Mike Tyson was a very lean 220 pounds. Probably less than 10% bodyfat. Fury was 246 against Klitschko, but still wasn't lean. He still had a spare tire in the ring. Probably 18-19% bodyfat. If Tyson Fury was as lean as Wilder, he'd be 215-220 also. Weight means nothing in this scenario.
     
  7. BigRobNC

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    I'd say a few of the guys that you listed would give Fury a hell of a fight. Toney Tucker, before he became a junkie, was a very skilled and durable guy. He gave a prime Lewis a good fight too when he was far older and his body ruined by drugs. Certainly better than anyone Fury has faced, including a 40 year old Wlad match up wise. He had a much better chin than Wlad, and he could bang. Fury would also have a serious fight against a 1990 Ruddock. Fury doesn't have the power to keep Ruddock honest. Certainly not near the level of Lennox Lewis and Tyson.

    The issue that Fury has is that he can't punch, at all. He's a very good fighter with some unique talent, but I don't think he could easily beat an 80s Tyson. He struggled with Otto Wallin, a guy that would be trounced by everyone you listed.

    There's only been a few huge guys that could fight inside, and Fury is one of them. Sadly, he would not be able to fight Tyson in close because Tyson threw hydrogen bombs and Fury throws mash mellows. No way is Fury keeping Iron Mike on the end of a jab. No fighter Tyson fought in the 80s could do it, and neither could Fury. I'd say the 38 year old Holmes that Tyson fought still had a better jab than Fury, and Holmes wasn't able to do a thing in there.

    Fury would be forced to fight in the mid-range in the fight and he would lose because Mike Tyson doesn't have concrete feet like Derek Chisora and others. To think of it, could Wilder beat any of the guys you listed?
     
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  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Your 100% correct, 38 year old Holmes who hadn’t fought in years couldn’t back up prime Tyson. That automatically means he beats fury Also Fury easily beats tucker and Ruddock
     
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  9. BigRobNC

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    What an incredibly low IQ response. I've owned you, so you were forced to respond with a strawman. Wow! You've proven your lack of boxing knowledge. I said nothing about backing him up. Holmes didn't try to back him up. He wanted to establish his legendary jab and work at a safe range. He failed miserably at doing so. You also lied when you said Holmes hadn't fought in years. It was only 21 months. It was also not short notice. That was Larry's BS to make an excuse for being blown away. Just one look at him in the ring and you can see that he was in decent shape. Also, his shape was not an issue because he was steam rolled in short order.

    That was the same Holmes that fought Mercer at his best 4 years after he fought Tyson and busted his ass. He also fought Holyfield 4 years after he fought Tyson and pushed Holyfield for the full 12 and made one hell of an account for himself. To further prove that Holmes was not as far gone as some say, he pushed McCall to the limit for the title nearly 7 and a half years after Tyson stopped him. A fight that the judges only gave McCall by 1 round. Was Larry diminished against Tyson, yes, but he only looked feeble against Tyson because at that point Mike was at his very best.......... and he could not be left out in no man's land with a good jab and some lateral movement.

    My point was that Tyson at his best had head movement, foot speed, and aggression that didn't allow tall men to keep him stuck on the end of a jab. None of the 80s fighters did it, and neither could Fury. Fury would be forced to fight in tight at points in the fight and he would get hit. He could pull moves like many others and hang on for dear life, but Fury has more balls than that. This would be a rough fight, and anyone that thinks Fury could roll over an 80s Tyson is a idiot.
     
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  10. BigRobNC

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    You know absolutely nothing about boxing. Comparing a Rooney trained Tyson to Chubby Arreola shows your lack of boxing knowledge. Arreola was a slow flat footed fat guy with no hand speed and very limited punch selection. He also had zero ability to feint or hide his attacks. He also didn't move his head. He was a stationary target. Klitschko was still falling all over the ring getting away from him.

    By contrast, Mike Tyson had the best head movement in HW history, along with Joe Frazier. Head movement so good that not even Ali could keep a 71 Frazier stuck on the end of a jab. The Greatest was forced to fight Frazier for dear life because there are guys that could not be controlled by foot movement and a jab. No fighter ever kept a Rooney trained Tyson at bay, and neither could the Klitschkos. Both of them would get hit early and often. I love both guys, but Wlad would have zero chance of beating Mike Tyson because he can't fight inside, and he has a bad chin. Vitali had a great chin, but unlike Lewis and Tyson Fury, Vitali could not fight in close, at all. He needed huge space, and there has been very few mid range fighters to match Mike Tyson in history. Just go watch a 38 year old, fat, slow, flat footed, no reflexes Lennox Lewis walking Vitali down and beating him up in those last few rounds. Yes, Vitali did well early, but he was getting caught more and more as the fight went on...................because there are guys that you can't just jab and hold for 12 rounds. He got mugged and his face was sliced to bits.

    Listen, Tyson wasn't a slug like Arreola and Sam Peter. Pull up the videos. It wasn't just that he could move his head well, he had other worldly timing and reflexes. Watch the videos and show me a heavyweight that could feint, hide his attacks, and make up distance like Mike Tyson...............they don't exist. Add in the fact that he's one of the best punchers in history, with the fastest hands, and a great chin, and he's not an easy fight for any of these dinosaurs.

    His best was brief, like all short come forward punchers, but when he was sharp, he was very hard to outbox.

    This site was once full of super knowledgeable fans. Now, too many know-it-all noobs. There's nothing worse than the combination of ignorance and arrogance. Later! lol
     
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  11. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This actually made me laugh. :thumbup:
     
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  12. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Oh my mistake a 21 month layoff, again this proves nothing. No top heavyweight in the 80s was as good as fury. Tillis and tucker proved that the good movement, durability, and height gives Tyson a lot of problems. Difference is Fury is much better than Tillis and Tucker and would actually be able to out point Mike. Let’s say an aggressive fury from the wilder rematch shows up, fury likely forces mike backwards and makes him fight off the back foot, fury is very capable of doing this since he is so much bigger than mike, fury eats some leather getting close to mike but once fury is forcing mike backwards what is Tyson gonna do? He can’t do anything since his style isn’t meant to go backwards. Mike isn’t winning this fight
     
  13. Braindamage

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    My man, you literally compared Arreola with Mike Tyson? Tyson was light years ahead of Arreola in all aspects of the sport. Very poor comparison. I will agree that MT struggles mightily against Vitali.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

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    I don't think it is such a dumb idea that a highly proven, 6'9" champion might beat a great 5'11 fighter, but I think that out of respect, you give it to Mike, and it is going to be that way for a long time.
     
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  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Another joker who thinks body beautiful physiques are the thing to focus on instead of actual skills. Arreola has terrific combinations and a jab and chin, power, etc. That is a lot like Mike. Have you ever seen Arreola and Tyson uppercut side by side...? Well...? Have you...? Yeah, didn't think so...
     
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