GGG vs James Toney at 160.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JohnThomas1, Sep 19, 2020.


Who wins?

  1. Toney by decision.

  2. Toney by stoppage.

  3. Ladies and gentieman we have a draw!!!

  4. GGG by decision.

  5. GGG by stoppage.

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  1. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah it's different for everyone...Golovkin has had way more fights than hagler, and was older than hagler when he retired when he fought Canelo.
    How many fighters in Golovkin's mold are blasting out opposition when they're in their mid 30's, like they were in their 20's?
    Are you 15? Do you not understand how people slow down as they age?
     
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  2. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    No Golovkin wasn't a pressure fighter aginst Canelo or Jacobs because he had slowed down considerably!
    Thicko
     
  3. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    Hagler lost clearly to a Leonard who hadn't fought in years..because Hagler was old and slow.
    Hagler's allowed to slow down 3 years younger than GGG, and after less fights? That's interesting.
    More people thought GGG beat Canelo than thought Hagler beat Leonard. That's a fact, K?
    You don't understand boxing mate
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'm quietly hoping for 50 pages even if the same points get belted around for the last 47 of them :D
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I've won this thread. I beat BCS8 into submission and hit Mendoza so hard he's abandoned his twisted logic and mental gymnastics and resorted to age calling.

    :eusa_dance:
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    MM has gone well too among others.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    We're like a squad. Loudon is the cavalry.
     
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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    We are talking punchers, and some of the middle GGG fought hit as hard as Johnson, or Tarver. Yes, with 20 title defenses, odds are Jones gets clipped once. That's how boxing works, and we all know Roy Jones chin is suspect vs punchers. So while I pick Jones to beat them all individually, I am talking collectively. Fair enough?
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    Golovkin has had way more fights than hagler?? What are you stupid or something? Look up their records and get back to me.

    Povetkin who carries an extra 50 pounds of weight is still knocking top rated guys out at 41... How?
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    He wasn't a pressure fighter against Lemiuex either. Backing off as he had Canelo against the ropes isn't a sign of slowing down , it was a calculated decision. He still had him against the ropes you thick twat.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

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    Golovkin never relied on speed. . . Golovkin was a pressure fighter as much as Carl Froch was a pressure fighter.
    Froch retired at 37 looking better than he was at 27.. Why is that? Because with commitment and discipline , fighters can prolong their shelf life.
    It helps also if they have relatively easy careers like Golovkin had. Going into the Canelo fights , GGG had very little miles on his clock. . By the same age Canelo will be in far worse condition and maybe even retired. Context is matters in these cases. . Its no wonder a dummy like you thinks its a basic concept. . You know nothing about the sport
     
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  12. Loudon

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    They were all B and C class fighters.

    Again, Roy beat better fighters, and at higher weights.

    Apart from his DQ, he went 15 years unbeaten.

    Lots of guys who Roy fought had the power to knock him out. But they didn't because they never got the opportunity.

    John Ruiz was P4P on the same level as some as GG's opponents, and he was a 235 pound HW.

    A guy like David Lemieux is a good puncher, but he couldn't land a glove on a guy like Saunders.

    Roy would have played with Lemieux.

    It's okay possessing the power, but they'd have needed the perfect opportunity to have landed it, whilst they were also trying to cope with what Roy was firing at them.

    Now how likely would that have been??

    To me, this thread is absolutely hilarious.

    Not only have you tried to denigrate Toney and Mike, you're now saying that GG's low level competition would have beaten a prime Roy Jones.

    You're either desperate or you're trolling me.
     
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  13. Mendoza

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    Do not put words int y mouth, I never said GGG's competition was a good as Roy Jones. It wasn't. Now take that back please, and do not use it as a foundation for your reply.

    You're not getting what I am saying. Tua was a C call fighter, but he had A class power. So a guy like Lemieux who had A class power, and was in the top ten ( Making him at least B class ) sure can upset Roy Jones. Middleweights can generally box better than say heavyweights.

    Jones picked his ref and a heavyweight with out much power to beat Ruiz. Ruiz wasn't allow to clinch and grab inn that fight. Yes Jones won that fight, but Ruiz was his easiest match up, Roy's not facing Klitschko or Lewis no way.

    Roy Jones, as talented as he was did not have a good chin, and you know it. Jones was also very careful with his chances, picking McCullum way past it, avoiding Michalczewski, plus as we know he was on PED's testing 5x above the legal limit so was he that good? How much a role did the ROIDS play? You tell me.

    Like you said, Jones lost via DQ. What can't he lose in 20 title fights? He could be cut, or hurt. This is boxing stuff happens. And when you have a suspect chin, upsets can happen more often.

    You keep using A, B, C. Well in your opnion, what grade was Roy Jones chin?
     
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  14. Mendoza

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    GGG had too long of an amateur career. He was 345–5! That is a lot of fights. SO he had lots of miles on his clock, to use your own words.

    I don't think you understand what Christpuncher is saying. How old are you by the way, if you don't mind answering.
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

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    Toney beat two A level fighters (Nunn, Mc Callum) and a B plus fighter (Reggie J). GGG only beat B and C level fighters.