GGG vs James Toney at 160.

As an amateur with head gears and a couple rounds. You want to compare that to professional now. Another silly point by you.

 

His amateur career was 3 rounds with headgear , large gloves and an emphasis on point scoring. By all account he dominated the majorly of his amateur bouts. Professional sparring would have been harder than GGGs amateur career.
You don't really know anything about boxing. You think Golovkin beats Sam Peter

 

Its got nothing to do with anything, fighters arent born the same, they have different capabilities, shelf life down to styles. Froch stood off way more than GGG also

so amateur careers, the training, the fights dont count ? Really ? 350 x 3 rounds and how many punches, constant training doesn't have any physical effect, they only start taking damage and injuries and KO's when they are pro ??

 

He certainty did not Richard. Froch would never have backed off against a guy moving up in weight, ever.

 

Were you saying the same thing about Rigo when he fought Loma , no you weren't Birmingham so stfu

 

Theres no way of gauging it exactly, but if you think 350 fights @3 rounds a time doesnt have an effect on the body and mind then thats crazy. Id hazard a guess that 350 am fights would be as much wear and tear as most fighters amateur and pro careers combined, its a huge number, way way more than average

 

Richard ? Froch never fought a fella with Canelos skill set and won, it means nothing that logic you mention...Canelo was a huge weight cutter, he was boiling down to 154, i have no doubt GGG weighing in at 160 all his career couldve done the same and cut to 154.

 

Birmingham ?? Richard ?? Are you ok ?? Rigo v Loma tells me your feeling weak and then the astonishing rude outburst at the end confirms it !

 

Amateurs and professionals are two completely different worlds, including in terms of preparation , damage taken and duration of a fight. Alone the rounds of sparring (gym wars as Marvin had them) can be tougher than an amateur figh. You have no idea what you are talking about

 

You clown, do you not think amateure spar ?? lol...Sparring can also be tougher than pro fights too, plenty of times fighters have had harder sparring than their fights, its bloody obvious..FFS, ive walked in to a right pair of planks with you and Dildo havent i

 

You idiot, you have no idea what you are talking about!!! You are talking Marvin Hagler here. Ever heard of the famous brutal philly gym wars? You want to compare that to some amateur sparring you clown???? Do you know with how man ounces the gloves Marvin wear in his fights in the 70s? Do you have any idea of the enormously strict training regiment Marvin put himself through for each fight? You know nothing

 

I know exactly what you're saying.

It's a desperate attempt to try and give GG's resume a much needed boost.

Referring to them as title defences, doesn't elevate them in terms of quality.

You ask: Why couldn't he have lost 20 title fights at MW?

I'm asking you: Why didn't he lose 48 fights in his own career, across 4 weight classes?

Again, Roy beat better competition collectively.

A guy being in the top 10 doesn't automatically make him a B class fighter. Not in today's era. It all depends on the quality and the depth of the division.

Yes, Lemiuex has great power. Certainly enough to have knocked out Saunders, IF he could have landed flush. Yet he never got the opportunity, as he couldn't get near him. Saunders embarrassed him with his speed and skills.

Again, many of Roy's opponents had the power to knock him out. They knocked out their other opponents who operated in the same division.

Lemiuex could have upset Roy, like I could win the lottery.

The likelihood is, Roy would have embarrassed him because he was so superior.

To me, it's a joke. Because I know that if Toney or Mike had GG's resume, you'd have rubbished it.

Regarding Ruiz, he was a top 10 ranked HW. Could he not punch?

Regarding Dariusz, he wasn't avoided. Roy just wasn't willing to take 3 belts across to Germany.

Regarding his chin, he took a great shot off Toney. He took a good right hand off of Ruiz. He got up after Del Valle dropped him. Getting knocked out by flush shots against big punching LHW's and CW's past prime, isn't evidence of a bad chin. And even if it was made of glass, the fact that nobody could crack it in 15 years tells you the percentage that a guy like Lemiuex would have had of cracking it.

Your posts are becoming more desperate with each one you make.

First it was that Toney wasn't great, then it was that Mike wasn't, then it was that Mike was old, stiff and merely good, and now you're trying to elevate GG's mediocre opposition by saying they could have beaten Roy in his prime.

It is absolutely laughable.

Roy Jones would have toyed with GG's B and C level opposition.

You know it, I know it, and everyone reading this thread knows it.

Have a word with yourself.

 

Antonio Tarver would've sent GGG into orbit.

 

"To me, it's a joke. Because I know that if Toney or Mike had GG's resume, you'd have rubbished it."You nailed it !!!

 

Really? If you watch the Nunn fight you'll see that Nunn was comfortably 6-4, arguably 7-3 ahead.

An old guy that still managed to outwork Toney

World champions are c level? OK. Your opinion. I have a different one.

I disagree with the notion that Toney would beat Golovkin.