Would Conn Have A Realistic Chance Of Beating Dempsey?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Oct 2, 2020.



Who takes it?

  1. Dempsey?

    83.3%
  2. Conn?

    16.7%
  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    25,016
    28,628
    Jan 8, 2017
    Obviously I'm taking about the Billy Conn that almost, nearly beat the great Joe Louis.

    Instead he's facing the Mauler of 1921. How's he cope?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    108,237
    38,765
    Mar 21, 2007
    Yeah, very well. Probably gets beaten out to the body though, as was the fate of Gibbons. Dempsey is especially to be favoured if there's more of that apparently terrible refereeing.

    I feel "keeping Dempsey busy" would be tougher than keeping Louis busy though.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    95,101
    24,866
    Jun 2, 2006
    Louis dried out and ate hardly anything to reduce weight and not look like a bully,he said he felt like **** against Conn.Louis was also more methodical and basically stalked the fleet footed Conn,Dempsey was in your face and quicker afoot than Joe.Jack gets to him sooner or later,probably, as McGrain says, via a constant body bombardment.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    25,016
    28,628
    Jan 8, 2017
    I've got Dempsey stopping him before the tenth. There wouldn't be many rounds imo actually that Conn wins.
    J takes him out of his stride from the first round. He'd be to busy hanging on to his head.
     
  5. Arminius1

    Arminius1 Member Full Member

    229
    189
    Jun 7, 2019
    Dempsey would pummel Conn. He was way to strong for Conn.
     
    louis54 and RockyJim like this.
  6. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,564
    2,372
    Jul 2, 2020
    Yeah, I’d think Dempsey would be a worse style matchup for Conn. He matched up quite well with Louis.

    Not sure about the first part, though. I’ve heard it, but it doesn’t really jive for me. He weighed less than 2 pounds more in his previous fight and less than 3 pounds more in his next fight. Then there’s the whole thing about the weights being fudged that a lot of people subscribe to. Conn being lighter than listed and Louis being heavier to make it appear less of a mismatch. I’m not sure about that one, either. They didn’t look more than the 25 pounds apart they were listed as to me.
     
    RockyJim and TipNom like this.
  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    25,016
    28,628
    Jan 8, 2017
    I can also see Conn at the back end, actually going for it with Dempsey, the old red mist descending as it did with Louis.
    Of course, it wouldn't help Billy boy, just being about his ending a little quicker!
     
    RockyJim likes this.
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

    44,603
    2,739
    Feb 20, 2008
    Dempsey would beat a very game Conn to a pulp. Conn was a tough guy and wouldn't go away easily he likely takes a prolonged beating before crumbling.
     
    louis54 and RockyJim like this.
  9. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    2,065
    1,838
    Feb 23, 2020
    Conn is the type of boxer Dempsey had problems with. I think Conn is a better boxer than Tunney but smaller. So Conn may well outbox Dempsey with his straighter quicker punches. That 10lb weight advantage may mean Conn gets bullied though. Hard to say, it's a good match up.
     
    RockyJim likes this.
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    95,101
    24,866
    Jun 2, 2006
    Louis said it in his autobiography,so I guess you either take his word for it or not.
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

    24,267
    7,626
    Jul 15, 2008
    Conn was talented, tough and game but I see the 1921 Dempsey, still in his prime, doing a number on Billy ..
     
    louis54 and RockyJim like this.
  12. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,911
    Nov 21, 2009
    Not only does he lose to the Mauler of 1921, he loses to THE NONPARIAL of the 1880s
     
    louis54 likes this.
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    14,952
    12,991
    Jun 9, 2007
    Conn doesn't have the power the make Dempsey hesitate. Jack chase's him down and stops him brutally
     
    RockyJim likes this.
  14. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    2,065
    1,838
    Feb 23, 2020
    He didn't do that with Tunney and healthy Miske fought him to a split decision and Greb supposedly outboxed him. Dempsey would need to break Conn to the body. If Conn is beating Dempsey to the punch, he would respect Conn's power.
     
    KasimirKid likes this.
  15. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,275
    5,193
    Apr 29, 2020
    Yea, you have got it about right.
     
    RockyJim likes this.