GGG vs James Toney at 160.

On vacation so this will be short. So what if Toney has to come back vs Nunn you say? I say it shows his limitations as a boxer. That’s what. We saw them vs a past his best McCallum too.

By the way how come there was no rematch here? IMO Nunn would win it.

Did you see my card on Toney vs a 35 year old McCallum? IMO McCallum edged it. Also one judge fixed his card for Toney .

If my questions are so dumb, how come I don’t see you answering them? To be reviewed at a later point when I have the time and oh my I seriously overestimated you as a poster.

 

What happen to B class? . Yes Roy at age 35 was ko’d twice. Some GGG opponents hit just as hard as say Johnson.

I never said Roy would be in his prime for 20 title defenses, how could anyone? Think a bit before you post. You just might get it.

 

Ggg an all time great what a laughable assertion

 

Toney not busy enough.

 

It’s a copypasta lol

 

With every post you make, the more you embarrass yourself.

Thanks for giving that link regarding the process of ageing. I wasn’t aware of it before. (that’s sarcasm by the way, just incase it evades you)

Yes, for what feels like the hundredth time of explaining it to you, Mike was an old fighter at 35. But once again, it’s still a great win, because Mike was still a great fighter at that point. Now, is that merely my opinion? No. Why? Because we have evidence of what else he’d done at the time, and what he went on to do afterwards. We also know what Toney did afterwards. That is HOW YOU RATE A WIN.

Regarding Michael Watson, you’re denigrating him based on his resume, without allowing for the fact that his career was cut tragically short. But even so, there’s enough evidence to see that he was a very good fighter.

Regarding Sanderline Williams, Williams lost a lot of fights, but he was very durable and took nearly all of his opposition the distance. Big strong guys and punchers like Gerald, Benn and Barkley etc, couldn’t stop him. So it’s highly unlikely that GG’s mostly low level competition would have punched a hole through him. But even if they could have done, it still doesn’t alter the fact that Toney and Mike have a superior resume to GG. And trying to mock his performances against Williams and Tiberi won’t change that.

 

No.

Why have you posted the video?

EVERYBODY on this thread has admitted that Tiberi beat him.

I personally have mentioned on numerous occasions that Toney admitted himself.

I already made reference to the video that you have uploaded over a week ago.

Instead of posting up pointless interviews, why don’t you go and address the posts which have been put to you.

 

What on earth are you talking about?

Roy Jones was shot.

He hadn’t had a top level win for exactly 5 years.

Mike had had many top level wins, and went on to have them afterwards.

Regarding Floyd, it would obviously have meant something to you. After all, you think that GG’s wins over B and C class fighters are so great.

 

In the 8 years I’ve been here, I’ve honestly never seen anyone tear down 2 GREAT resumes, whilst at the same time trying to hype a mediocre one.

It beggars belief.

These 2 guys don’t rate wins over Watson, Kalambay, Nunn and Reggie etc, but they do rate wins over Geale, Murray and Macklin etc.

You couldn’t make it up.

If that wasn’t embarrassing enough, we’re then informed that Roy Jones may not have been able to have beaten that same group of B and C level fighters.

Ha!

I’d like to say that I’m being trolled. But I don’t think that I am. These guys are just that stupid.

 

Right.

Okay then.

Use the same criteria for GG’s resume.

If you don’t rate Mike and Toney’s combined wins over Watson, Kalambay, Nunn, Reggie, McCallum, Collins, Graham and Jackson etc, then please explain why you rate wins over Macklin, Murray and Geale etc so highly?

Enlighten us.

If Toney and Mike’s resumes aren’t impressive to you, explain how GG’s resume is impressive to you.

If there wasn’t anything particularly great about knocking out a peak version of Michael Nunn, tells us what was so impressive about knocking out Matthew Macklin.

Go.

Your brain is still yet to work out that fighting LESSER opposition is EASIER than fighting BETTER opposition.

You think that GG was better, with a better resume, because Toney struggled with his competition, whereas GG beat most of his much more comfortably.

Well of course he did, Einstein. Because knocking out the likes of Matthew Macklin is easier than knocking out Michael Nunn. Why? Because Micheal Nunn was obviously a better fighter. SMH.

You are trying to debate on statistics.

You’re a stat man.

You have no concept of the quality and the stylistic match ups of the fights.

 

Wilfully obtuse?

A simple analogy?

You have compared Mike McCallum to the version of Muhammad Ali who wouldn’t even have been granted a licence to fight in today’s era.

That is how truly pathetic you are.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Ali was a tragic figure at that point, and shouldn’t have been allowed to fight.

Mike McCallum was still an elite level fighter, where he went on to win a world title 2 divisions higher.

You are an absolute disgrace.

 

Nobody needs a get out of jail card from you.

You have been smashed all over the thread by everybody.


The truth is this:

You are literally incapable of having an objective debate due to your severe lack of knowledge.


Just take a step back and look at your reasoning:

You don’t rate Toney’s wins over Reggie, Nunn and Mike, because the wins over Reggie and Mike were close, and he was behind against Nunn before the knockout.

Yet you do rate wins over Macklin, Murray and Rubio etc, because GG beat them very easily without struggling.


That is how you are debating. But unfortunately, you don’t possess the intellect to look at the quality of the opposition and the stylistic issues that they brought. You haven’t applied any context whatsoever. You haven’t looked and compared the quality of the fighters.


Yes, GG is a great fighter. And yes, he beat his competition much easier. But that’s because they were lesser fighters.


You are a social media type casual fan with no real understanding of the sport.

 

Here’s some examples of your towering intellect:


“Nunn was schooling Toney until he gassed”

“Toney’s win over Mike meant nothing because it was a close fight and Mike was old”

“GG is better than Mike and Toney, because he made more title defences”


We’re truly blessed to have you here.

 

You’ll keep me dancing?

No.

You’ll just keep me scratching my head at your cringeworthy casual fan type posts.

 

Let’s see him answer this.