GGG vs James Toney at 160.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JohnThomas1, Sep 19, 2020.


Who wins?

  1. Toney by decision.

  2. Toney by stoppage.

  3. Ladies and gentieman we have a draw!!!

  4. GGG by decision.

  5. GGG by stoppage.

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    A few things as my post was rushed, and I might edit it later. Boxers fight in less than 7 weeks all the time. Greb I think, fought 30 times in one year. If you are young, it's not a big deal.

    Have you ever boxed? I played organized American football and boxed for a few months. If you want the truth, Football is more damaging to your body, and the pro's play ever week. Boxing is more likely to give you a headache.

    There was none of this Toney wasn't rested enough before the fight. Its a fanboy excuse. Unless your nursing an injury, 7 weeks is more than enough time for a boxing match. What about Tiberi, I could say he was inactive, not in fighting shape, and only had 7 or less weeks to prepare too. When was this fight announced? Heck,Toney was probably working out before Tiberi was offered a fight.

    Why cut GGG"s resume in half? That's silly. The stark contest is GGG blew his opponents out, Toney often struggled vs. older men, drawing or barely getting a decision. None of the happened to GGG until he out of his prime.

    If you want to go the total amount of title defenses, GGG blows Toney away, its not even close.
     
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Yes, GGG hit harder than Jones at 160. You are in the minority if you think otherwise.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    First of all, I'm not in the minority. And second, why do you say GGG hit harder so confidently? What has GGG done to match what Jones did? What has GGG done which Jones couldn't?
     
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  4. CharlesBurley

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    How has this made 52 pages? Anyway styles favour Toney here, he loved come forward fighters and his defense and counter punching is a fair bit above Canelos
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Don't forget to vote ;)
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Loudon, You might be right.

    So that’s 8 if he wants to include Roy.

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  7. THE BLADE 2

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    Yep, from an objective viewpoint, Toney has to be favoured based on this particular style matchup and superior resume.
     
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  8. dinovelvet

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    There was none of this Golovkin was past prime business before the Jacobs fight. Thats your fanboy excuse , fanboy.
    You did not make the past prime excuses for Golovkin until after his two fights with Canelo. Fact.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    Jones Jr slept iron chinned Malinga at 160. Golovkin couldn't stop chinny Danny Jacobs and never came close to even dropping Canelo over 24 rounds. GGGs stoppage rate is 0% against top levellers
    You pretty much admitted in the other thread you pick against guys who you don't like. Its obvious who you like and don't like
     
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  10. Mendoza

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    Um yes, I have been saying GGG was past his best well before the fight with Canelo. Try to stick with what you know, whatever that might be.

    You want proof, see post #52 in this thread, posted by me in 2017

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/is-ggg-in-decline.595710/page-4#post-18828205[/url]

    Post #19, 2017

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/would-daniel-jacobs-at-age-30-give-all-time-greats-at-35-trouble.583934/page-2#post-18469342[/url]

    I think I might use the search engine a bit more in the future. Dino your a dishonest and uninformed poster.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

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    You picked him to win by KO

     
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  12. Mendoza

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    From an objective standpoint, Toney had rough goes vs Johnson and Williams, GGG has beaten better so GGG would win.

    If you struggle vs Johnson ( knocked down ) and Williams ( Closed eye ) and, allow Thorton to land 323 punches.....your not beating GGG.

    Losing badly to Roy Jones and drawing with a 35 year old McCallum shows where Toney belongs/ He did beat Nunn, but was way behind, and did not offer a re-match. And losing to Tiberi :)

    See my post #776 in this thread for a review of the ranked people he fought. You can comment there if you wish but you won't be able to BS anyone or hide.
     
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  13. Mendoza

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    WHAT? Jacobs has only been stopped once and down by my count just twice in 39 pro fights. How does that make him chinny?

    Dino YKSAB. Isn't there a better thread for you in the lounge? NO need to reply back, you'l be wrong again and I'm moving on from you in this thread. You hate Eastern Euro fighters, that has been obvious for years dating back to your laughable picks over Wlad.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    Still ducking the question. :lol:
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

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    And that is the unobjective viewpoint :smoking:
     
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