Harder puncher at 160 - Jones or GGG?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JohnThomas1, Oct 7, 2020.


Who hit harder at 160?

  1. RJJ

  2. It's a wash/i have no stones.

  3. GGG

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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess KO% suddenly doesn't matter to you, when a given narrative suits your agenda then... ... ...
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Loudon says:

    I asked you if GG had a schedule like Toney’s, where he sometimes fought once per month, which saw him accumulate 46 fights by the time he fought Roy Jones at just 26 years of age. And that question was extremely relevant to our debate.

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    Loudon Says: I asked you if GG had been tested in the way that Toney had been, where he’d had many fights, where he’d encountered many different styles, where he’d fought better competition and where he’d fought at higher weights?

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    Loudon says: Your answer: No. GG hadn’t been tested in his fights, as he didn’t struggle in his prime.

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    Loudon says: I have asked you 5 times if GG fought anyone as good as Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn when he was in his prime?

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    Loudon says: “GG never struggled in his prime against lesser fighters”

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    Loudon says: : GG never struggled in his his prime against any of his competition”
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    Loudon: You also have an obsession with Dave Tiberi.

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    Loudon: Finally, you have noted yourself that BJS schooled David Lemiuex, (who you rate very highly) yet he almost lost to a EUROPEAN LEVEL fighter in Artur Akavov, because he’d lost focus.

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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Reinhardt said: Vinnie Pazienza said Roy hit you with very fast punches not the hardest. He said the hardest he'd ever been hit was by Roberto Duran

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  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point is that you're a walking, talking, typing double-standard. Get it?
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No , GGG wanted to fight Sturm for the Super WBA Middleweight title. . How can you this thick? How???
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Are you ducking me this soon? Once again for clarification, in your opinion, who hit harder, Duran or Golovkin? Let us know.

    I think your fanboyism prevents an honest reply. You are under the microscope here. Your reply is?
     
  7. Bokaj

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    Have to say I'm surprised that this poll is fairly close.

    But then ahain, Toney really did lose to Tiberi.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Mendoza: GGG did in fact want to fight Strum for the super middle weight, belt, Their promoter Universum said no.
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    Mendoza: Dino, that's what I just said. It's sad that you disagree with me when we are saying the same thing. Yes-GGG wanted to fight Strum for his WBA Super Middle Weight belt. Universum who promoted them both would not have it. I'm going to stop ridiculing your intellect for a while, not because anyone asked me to, but for pity's sake.
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What was Duran's KO% for fights at 160 and above?
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Are you scared? Cat got your tongue? Answer the question without spin or the KO % which had nothing to do with the statement.

    Once again for clarification, in your opinion, who hit harder, Duran or Golovkin? Let us know.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    At what weight class , 160 or 168? Waiting on an answer
     
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  12. THE BLADE 2

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    sturm is a bum
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Come on now.

    I don’t mind people disagreeing with me.

    It’s what makes a great debate.

    I don’t mind you believing that GG would have beaten Toney. But when you’re saying things like: “Nunn schooled Toney before gassing” you let yourself down.

    I’ve seen many of your comments throughout the years.

    You’re normally a good poster with plenty of knowledge.

    I bet that I’ve liked many of your posts throughout the years.

    But when you’re talking about Danny Green and Trevor Berbick etc, it’s too much.

    Again, I have no issue with anybody saying that GG was better.

    You could tell me that GG would have knocked him out.

    If I was given a well thought out breakdown as to why you believe that, I’d greatly respect it, even if I strongly disagreed. But you two have mostly debated on stats without allowing for context.

    It’s been a poor showing from you both.

    Mendoza argued for page after page, on fights that he’d never ever seen.

    If you were both more objective, then all of these threads would be much better than what they currently are.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He's basically what you'd get if Tyson Fury shagged Klitschko's mum.
     
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  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think Nunn was up 5-6 points on Toney before getting clipped late. Don't you agree with that?

    The fight I was referring to was Toney vs MxCallum 1, which I just saw and scored. Now be honest, do you ever talk about fights you have never seen?. Yes or no? Please reply, no ducking. Honesty. Many fights that were never filmed are routinely talked about in the classic sections.

    And are you ready for my questions?