Skilled Counter-Puncher vs Skilled Pressure Fighter

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Showstopper97, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2020
    Messages:
    2,674
    Likes Received:
    3,226
    Who do you think generally has the edge? Name some examples of fights with these style match-ups.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2019
    Messages:
    27,126
    Likes Received:
    44,857
    Jofre vs Harada
    Duran vs Leonard
    Fenech vs Nelson
    Toney vs Jirov
    Ambers vs Armstrong
    Canzoneri vs Berg
    Betulio vs Oba
    Laguna vs Saldivar
     
  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    6,918
    Likes Received:
    8,576
    Marciano v Moore
    Pac v Marquez
    Can go either way I guess
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2008
    Messages:
    24,250
    Likes Received:
    9,816
  5. Amos-san

    Amos-san Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    634
    Laciar vs Roman all three
     
  6. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2019
    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    639
    Jmm vs pac is the best example I can think of
     
  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    18,091
    Likes Received:
    15,552
    Good shouts! Fenech vs Nelson and Laguna vs Saldivar are text book examples.
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    55,255
    Likes Received:
    10,344
    Skilled Counter-Puncher vs Skilled Pressure Fighter? The pressure fighter has the edge, especially if he can hit assuming neither has a glass jaw.

    Counter-punchers work best vs slower handed non power
    punching opponents, usually with the hook as a counter, almost never counting a jab with their own jab.
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2017
    Messages:
    8,584
    Likes Received:
    11,096
  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2019
    Messages:
    7,187
    Likes Received:
    11,431
    Holyfield vs Quawi is the definition of this
     
    HolDat and Flash24 like this.
  11. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,311
    Likes Received:
    5,444
    Holyfield vs Tyson
     
    Toney F*** U likes this.
  12. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2010
    Messages:
    18,053
    Likes Received:
    28,111
    Canelo vs GGG
    Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello
    Chocolatito vs Juan Francisco Estrada
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2007
    Messages:
    112,736
    Likes Received:
    47,527
    Definitive in the modern era for me was Calzaghe-Hopkins. Studying that fight is time well spent. Chief among the interest for me is how the volume puncher's output is reduced by a genuine skilled counter-puncher. That's how you tell a really good one I think.
     
    djanders and George Crowcroft like this.
  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    6,430
    Likes Received:
    9,399
    Ray Robinson vs Lomatta.
    Benitez vs Duran
    Mancini vs Arguello
    Sanchez vs Lopez
    Sanchez vs Nelson
    Frazier vs Ali
    Frazier vs Ellis
    Norton vs Foreman
    Foreman vs Ali
    Jackson vs McCallum
    Chavez vs Taylor
    Chavez vs Camacho
    Whitaker vs Chavez
    Whitaker vs Ramirez
    Whitaker vs Nelson
    Holmes vs Cooney
    Davis vs Baltazar
    Gatti vs Mayweather Jr.
    Mayweather vs Chavez
    Benitez vs Palomino.
    Holmes vs Mercer
    Douglas vs Tyson
    Deloyhoya vs Trinidad
    Trinidad vs Whitaker
    Monzon vs Briscoe
    Hagler vs Mugabi
    Hagler vs Sibson
    Hagler vs Hamsho
    Hagler vs Antefermo
    Cervantes vs Pryor
     
  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2005
    Messages:
    41,956
    Likes Received:
    3,424
    Duran was pretty much both.