How far away is lomachenko from being above floyd?

You have to take in to account their careers.

Had Lomachenko taken the same career path as Mayweather he probably would have had a better career than him.

Lomachenko doesn't wait for the fruit to ripen like Mayweather has done for most of his career.

Making catchweight bouts, avoiding certain fighters, calling all the shots is a mark against Mayweather's legacy however you try and butter it up.

 

Lol, why do you hate Mayweather so much? He's retired. It's a weird obsession.

 

At least 1 more weight class has got to go. Loma won't ever exceed Floyd due to the time spent in the Olympics and his smaller size. The competition just plain isn't there for him and he's already giving up a ton of weight at 135.

 

I'm not sure how you can compare GRJ and Corrales. They are as different as can be. The only thing to say is Corrales will have had the better career unless they can cure brittle hands.

It's unfortunate that Loma doesn't have an ODLH or Pacquiao to fight. With Pac it's physically possible but it's beyond unlikely. He needs an ATG to go up against.

 

If you go through my posts you will know I have a very high opinion of Floyd Mayweather, more so than (Pacman or JMM), if relevance is important. Ducking Antonio Margarito is one of the few flaws of his perfect career

Loma is exceptional in his own way, lets see how things go on 17 October

 

Lomachenko would have to go up and beat Josh Taylor (who's big at 140), then Crawford at 147. The latter is a suicide mission. Floyd has too much depth. I'll say this though, If Loma goes on to deal with Lopez, Haney and Davis, he will of turned away some dangerous young guns, all who are naturally bigger.

 

I will say this. If Loma beats Lopez and goes on to clean out all these other young undefeated fighters and then they go on to HOF careers you can then make a case for Loma ahead of FlIVd. But that is a long time from now and he has to beat all of the young guns out there.

 

Daylight and then some. Loma might be as good, but his achievements as a pro is still far from Floyd.

Even if we dismiss the Salido fight with being too early in his pro career (which you can object to seeing how his best wins came quite shortly afterwards) he just doesn't have the wins. Walters was great in just how he totally dismantled him, but it's not like he was a top 10 p4p fighter. Rigo was, but also smaller and older. I would give less credit for that than Floyd's win over JMM.

Russel jr is a good win, as is Linares seeing how Loma isn't a natural LW by today's standards, but the same is true of Floyd and WW and he's got more top wins there.

Manfredy, Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, DLH, Mosley, Canelo, Cotto, Pac... Plus a dozen more at least over ranked opposition. From 130-154. No matter how you try to wring all those wins inside and out, it's just head and shoulders over what Loma has done as a pro.

 

Loma made a mistake by not turning pro at the age of 21 or 22, by now he'd probably have a resume to rival Floyd, I bet him and Rigo would have fought 5-6 years ago if he turned pro earlier, he might have even fought Pacman in his "prime".

 

Depends how much you weight the amateur records. PBF''s amateur record shows he is certainly beatable while Loma avenged his loss.

Floyd's pro record is much broader but after Corrales he was a risk manager. His "best" wins since then:
- The Canelo win was a shut out against a raw talent, but that was done since by Lara, the difference was Floyd was the A-side.
- Pac was a very close fight against a guy he should have fought 5 years earlier if he cared about legacy. It was a stinker resulting from Floyd throwing quick no power leads and then clinching.
- Oscar was another split decision against a completely over the hill ODLH. Just imagine prime Oscar in tat fight and then wonder if Floyd is really the best ever.
- Cotto was not the lethal undefeated 140 pounded that Floyd conveniently ducked on his jump to 147.
- JLC 2 showed his ability to adjust, but he struggled in the first fight.
- Floyd got Ricky Hatton up to 147 when his best weight was 140. He dominated Fatton but it was nowhere near his prime version.
- Corrales was Floyd's best win in terms of prime, dangerous opponents and the way he won.

Loma has as good if not better wins than Floyd's best including Walters, Campbell, Linares, Russell Jr.

In summary, Floyd's broad undefeated pro record is better than Lomachenko's, but if you consider amateur records and the quality of the best wins, it is a much closer contest, which should really be considered after both have retired, after all, there might be a Tenshin rematch that could give Floyd the edge overall.

 

You're clearly a casual, Floyd loving type who can not be objective.

Loma can fight at 126 comfortably, and is taking on much bigger fighters in their primes without catchweights.

 

Man it’s hard to say that, the fact of the matter is 20 years of big fights is hard to overcome in 7 years.

 

PS, Loma vs Teo would be equivalent to Floyd fighting prime GGG. Happy for you to explain how I'm wrong, but Floyd didn't take risks post Corrales.

 

I'm interested in who Loma needs to fight? He has called out and fought everyone game up to 135. Garcia would have been a good fight but unfortunately I think that was politics. Tank will never be able to beat Loma, no matter how long he waits, and 140 is just too far.

 

Loma can clear 130 and 126 if other boxers step up to the plate. Everyone will say he is picking on midgets, but that's actually his correct weight and he is not a weight bully. His win against Rigo was a no win situation for Loma. Maybe Inoue can grow into 126 but that could be another no win situation for Loma.