Please, GGG would not wreck any of my picks. And the HOF is absolutely ****. It has no relevance when I make lists. When GGG (or Toney) beats someone as good as Sugar Ray Robinson, then he can be ranked over Fullmer.
@Loudon, are you ready. Post those answers. Still waiting.... Please answer yes or no without any spin, tangent, or attempt to undermine the question. Surely you can do this. This should be easy. Question #1. Do you think GGG is a hall of fame bound fighter? Yes or No? Not only do I think he is. I also think he'll earn the first-ballot distinction as possibly the top vote-getter in his class. Question #2 I think both Toney and GGG are top 25 all-time middleweights. Do you agree, Yes or no? Question #3 Do you think Nunn or McCallum are top 25 all-time middleweights? Now be honest, and if the answer is yes for either, Produce a top 25 list to be examined. To help you case you need names for the list, you can use the IBRO at Poll, which voted on their top 20 middleweights with some honorable mention. I was a former member. Most current members shun the web forums by the way. A few do post here. Since the IBRO rarely votes on active fighters, GGG's name is not mentioned, but Toney, who retied did make the honorable mention coming in 25th place overall. Personally, I think Ketchel has no business being where he is, and Toney would beat some rated ahead of him. You may also use Rumsfled's top 15 poll at ESB. 2https://[url]www.ibroresearch.com/2020/03/15645/[/url] Question #4 Do you think Golovkin would beat the 24-11-0 Sanderline Williams? Williams entered having lost three consecutive bouts on points and with a record of 2-7 in his previous nine. Assume this is GGG's 22nd pro fight, same as Toney. Toney drew with Williams. Call KO, UD, SD, Draw, or loss here for GGG. Quesiton #5. Do you think GGG would have to settle for a split decision vs. Sosa who was then an 18-0 greenish fighter and finished a 39-4-2 KO'd 4 times? Yes or no. Call Ko, UD, SD, Draw, or loss for Golovkin. Question #6. Do you think GGG would have to settle for a split decision, being knocked down in the process vs. a Ring Magazine top ten rated Reggie Johnson, or would Golovkin do better in your opinion? Call KO, UD, SD, Draw or loss for Golovkin Question #7 Do you think Golovkin would have to settle for a draw in his prime vs. a 35-year-old Mike McCallum? What's your call here, win, draw or loss. Keep in mind McCallum after this fight, never beat anyone good at middle or super middle and lost 3 more times. McCallum also said he was past his prime at this point, which video would attest to in from his fights years ago. Your call for Golovkin here is KO, UD, SD, Draw, or loss Question #8. Do you think GGG in his prime with 7 weeks to prepare for Dave Tiberi, who also the same amount of time to prepare as would defeat Tiberi? Call KO, UD, Draw or loss, please. We both agree Toney should have lost this fight. Question #9. How would GGG do vs Roy Jones? Better than Toney or worse?. Would he be floored as Toney was? Your answer to this question is? The score cards on Jones vs Toney were: Judge: John Stewart 119-108 in favor of Jones Judge: Glen Hamada 117-110 in favor of Jones Judge: Jerry Roth 118-109 in favor of Jones Unofficial AP scorecard: 119-107 Jones Essentially three cards say Jones up by 9 points, Jones uo by 9 points, and Jones up by 11 points. I think I'll stop here, I look forward to reading your replies.
You think neither Toney of GGG is a top 25 all time middle weights? Um Okay. You think GGG wouldn't vs a bum Toney drew with ( Williams 2 wins in his last 9 fights ) . To quote you " Yeah, but it wouldn't be a pushover. " Wrong, he'd be a pushover. Williams would get KO'd, and the match would not be close. You think Toney didn't beat a top 25 middleweight opponent? Let's hold on to that one. Toney fans might go crazy to ready that, I will go into more detail, waiting on London to reply.
Yes. GGG probably wouldn't make 30. If my man can draw with Toney, and deserve victories over Benn & Barkley, and go the distance with McClellan. Then he can go the distance and be competitive. Yeah. Neither has GGG, mind you. Toney came a lot ****in closer than him though. You can in as much detail as you please, so long as you come with a bit more than what Boxrec tells you.
Why? I spent time replying to your post, now you can't do me the same? You had no intention of answering my questions, I think because you are scared to admit certain truths. How sad, you ran from a debate. You were telling me you're good at it. There are easy questions you said you would get to them. Now your looking like a liar. Give it a go. Don't lie about what you are going to do, only to say NO MAS. One last chance for redemption: Your words, post #839 in this thread This content is protected Question #1. Do you think GGG is a hall of fame bound fighter? Yes or No? Not only do I think he is. I also think he'll earn the first-ballot distinction as possibly the top vote-getter in his class. Question #2 I think both Toney and GGG are top 25 all-time middleweights. Do you agree, Yes or no? Question #3 Do you think Nunn or McCallum are top 25 all-time middleweights? Now be honest, and if the answer is yes for either, Produce a top 25 list to be examined. To help you case you need names for the list, you can use the IBRO at Poll, which voted on their top 20 middleweights with some honorable mention. I was a former member. Most current members shun the web forums by the way. A few do post here. Since the IBRO rarely votes on active fighters, GGG's name is not mentioned, but Toney, who retied did make the honorable mention coming in 25th place overall. Personally, I think Ketchel has no business being where he is, and Toney would beat some rated ahead of him. You may also use Rumsfled's top 15 poll at ESB. 2https://[url]www.ibroresearch.com/2020/03/15645/[/url] Question #4 Do you think Golovkin would beat the 24-11-0 Sanderline Williams? Williams entered having lost three consecutive bouts on points and with a record of 2-7 in his previous nine. Assume this is GGG's 22nd pro fight, same as Toney. Toney drew with Williams. Call KO, UD, SD, Draw, or loss here for GGG. Quesiton #5. Do you think GGG would have to settle for a split decision vs. Sosa who was then an 18-0 greenish fighter and finished a 39-4-2 KO'd 4 times? Yes or no. Call Ko, UD, SD, Draw, or loss for Golovkin. Question #6. Do you think GGG would have to settle for a split decision, being knocked down in the process vs. a Ring Magazine top ten rated Reggie Johnson, or would Golovkin do better in your opinion? Call KO, UD, SD, Draw or loss for Golovkin Question #7 Do you think Golovkin would have to settle for a draw in his prime vs. a 35-year-old Mike McCallum? What's your call here, win, draw or loss. Keep in mind McCallum after this fight, never beat anyone good at middle or super middle and lost 3 more times. McCallum also said he was past his prime at this point, which video would attest to in from his fights years ago. Your call for Golovkin here is KO, UD, SD, Draw, or loss Question #8. Do you think GGG in his prime with 7 weeks to prepare for Dave Tiberi, who also the same amount of time to prepare as would defeat Tiberi? Call KO, UD, Draw or loss, please. We both agree Toney should have lost this fight. Question #9. How would GGG do vs Roy Jones? Better than Toney or worse?. Would he be floored as Toney was? Your answer to this question is? The score cards on Jones vs Toney were: Judge: John Stewart 119-108 in favor of Jones Judge: Glen Hamada 117-110 in favor of Jones Judge: Jerry Roth 118-109 in favor of Jones Unofficial AP scorecard: 119-107 Jones Essentially three cards say Jones up by 9 points, Jones uo by 9 points, and Jones up by 11 points. Will there be a 6th duck?
Okay then. But only if you agree than McCallum’s shorts from the Jackson fight, were better than any that GG ever wore. Deal?
Good choice mate Look how long and hard it was to get him to answer just one question , now he wants you to answer 10 of his in a row. Which you will no doubt answer fairly and honesty.. He has an agenda so he won't certainly won't grant you the same courtesy in return..
I have said Yes or deal manny times. On this one, sure. We have a deal. Now please answer the questions I have for you.
After 61 pages of this NOW it comes to an end? Tsk. for shame I thought you were going for a round 100.
Sorry to disappoint you, Loudon pulled a sudden NO MAS. Perhaps a smart play as if he did reply to my questions it would have been an epic knockout. He knows it. I know it. And best of all he knows that I know it. NO MAS.
Has it not occurred to you that I might have been joking. Having a deal based on someone’s shorts? Ha! I’ve been busy at work. I’ll answer them soon. Whilst I answer them, can you please tell me why you rate Danny Jacobs higher than Mike McCallum. Thanks.
