How does 'Smokin' Joe Frazier fare against these top heavyweights throughout history. Frazier vs: Sullivan Corbett Fitzsimmons Jeffries Johnson Dempsey Tunney Carnera Schmeling Baer Braddock Louis Conn Charles Walcott Moore Marciano Patterson Johansson Williams Liston Ali (prime in the 60s) Foreman (FOTC Frazier) Norton Holmes Lyle Shavers Young Witherspoon Bruno Tyson Lewis Holyfield Old Foreman Bowe Morrison Moorer Mercer McCall Ruddock Tua Ike Wlad Vitali Golota Rahman Byrd Valuev ( I know he's not a top hw, but just interesting due to the size) Povetkin Fury Wilder Joshua Ruiz Jr
He loses to Foreman, Lewis, Bowe, Liston, Wlad and maybe Bowe. Marciano has a good chance, so do Louis & Tyson. I'd pick him to beat those three though, and the rest.
Frazier beats all pre Louis champions other than perhaps Dempsey. Dempsey-Frazier would be 50-50. Max Baer has a punchers chance but he doesn't have Foreman's left hand nor his physical strength to win here. Frazier wears Baer down. Frazier is too good at cutting the ring to lose to slick boxers like Tunney or Corbett. Frazier loses to Louis, is 50-50 vs Marciano. Frazier flattens Igno and Patterson, with Igno perhaps scoring a knockdown early. Walcott, Charles and Moore do not have the chins to take Frazier's best. I love Conn but he couldn't stay away from Frazier either, and gets stopped. Frazier will be outgunned vs Liston. Frazier actually does well vs any version of Ali. If anyone could cut the ring vs a peak Ali, its Joe. Ali is the favourite but if they fight 3 or 4 times, Frazier probably wins 1. Frazier always loses to Foreman, FOTC or not. Foreman will block Frazier's left hook, taking away Joe's only major weapon. Joe will not be able to stay away either. Frazier beats Norton in an exciting fight. Frazier also beats Holmes. Larry hated getting pressured and didn't take a body shot like Ali. Watch the Witherspoon fight to see how Larry reacts when hit to the body. Frazier brings much higher intensity to fighting. Frazier will cut the ring vs Holmes, wear him down to the body, and win a close but convincing decision. Bad stylistic match up for Holmes.
Opie, I'm surprised you didn't also include: Jem Mace Paddy Ryan Charlie Mitchell Peter Jackson Bob Fitzsimmons Tom Sharkey Kid McCoy Tommy Burns Marvin Hart Sam Langford Sam McVey Joe Jeannette Gunboat Smith Harry Wills Jack Sharkey Young Stribling Primo Carnera Tiger Jack Fox Buddy Baer Elmer Ray Rex Layne Nino Valdes Eddie Machen Ingemar Johansson Cleveland Williams Mac Foster Leon Spinks Gerry Cooney Michael Spinks Buster Douglas Old George Foreman™ Andrew Golota Shannon Briggs Michael Grant David Tua Ike Ibeabuchi Chris Byrd David Haye Andy Ruiz Jr
I was gonna add some of them, but the list would be too long & it's already long. But I'll add Fitzsimmons, Carnera, Williams, Cooney, , Old Foreman, Mercer, McCall, Tua, Golota Byrd, Ruiz Jr. Some of the other ones I've never watched, people like the M Spinks, Haye aren't natural heavyweights & others are just plain bad.
Ali, Liston, Foreman, Dempsey, Lewis, Louis and Tyson all have an excellent chance. However, none of the aforementioned men would have an easy time. Hell, their's not a man who ever lived who would.
Guys who would almost beat Frazier: Louis, Marciano Guys who are underdogs vs. Frazier, but could turn things their way with the right punch: Williams, Lyle, Tyson, Mercer, McCall Guys who would certainly beat Frazier; Foreman, Bowe
Guys who beat Frazier Ali Louis Tyson Marciano Liston Lewis Foreman I’m sure out of Wlad, Fury, and AJ he losses to one of them. But not all.
3 fight series Frazier vs: Sullivan W W W Corbett W W W Fitzsimmons W W W Jeffries W W W Johnson W W W Dempsey W W W Tunney L W W Carnera W W W Schmeling L W W Baer L W W Braddock W W W Louis L W L Conn W W W Charles W L W Walcott L W W Moore W W W Marciano L W L Patterson W W W Johansson W W W Williams W W W Liston L W N/A Liston early or Frazier late even contest Ali (prime in the 60s) L L L Foreman (FOTC Frazier) L L L Norton W D W Holmes W L W Lyle W W W Shavers W W W Young W W W Witherspoon W W W Bruno W W W Tyson L W L Lewis L L L Holyfield W L D Old Foreman L L L Bowe L L L Morrison W W W Moorer L W W Mercer L W W McCall W W W Ruddock W W W Tua W L W Ike L L L Wlad L L L Vitali L L L Golota W W W Rahman W W W Byrd L W W Valuev ( I know he's not a top hw, but just interesting due to the size) W W W Povetkin W W W Fury L L L Wilder W W W Joshua W L L Ruiz Jr L W W