Vasyl Anatolyevich Lomachenko vs. Teófimo Andrés López & Alejandro Saucedo vs. Arnold Barboza Jr RBR

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I wont make excuses. Loma was not old or past his best, he was not robbed on the cards, he was not fouled or low blowed to submission, he genuinely lost. I do think size has something to do with it, but I wont make excuses, but size has something to do with it. But I dont like excuses unless they are valid, like size.
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Nice to see you’re still being a pathetic, emotionally disturbed bully with an awful eye for boxing, who melts down when people disagree with or criticize him. :lol:
     
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  3. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mean people've been saying for a while Lomachenko is up one weight class too far.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Who's being an emotionally disturbed bully with an awful eye for boxing? I'm telling all the people acting like bullying assholes on this thread to stop acting like bullying assholes. @Reppin501 is a world-class passive aggressive puke like you, birds of a feather. Cute how you're coming to his defense though. Are you going to suck each other's dicks later? As far as my eye for boxing, I scored it for Lopez, what the **** are you talking about?
     
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  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Lol, K...
     
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  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Loma got his ass beat in the 12th round.
     
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  8. Redwood

    Redwood Active Member Full Member

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    I scored the fight for Lopez, 9-3 rounds, 117-111 points. I gave Lomachenko the 8th, 9th, and 11th rounds. Lomachenko gave away the first 7 rounds, he won the 8th with a single flurry of punches that finally got Joe Tessitore's attention ("We got a fight!"), the 9th and 10th were close, Lomachenko dominated the 11th with his best round of the fight, and Lopez dominated the 12th with his best round of the fight. I think the three official scores of 116-112, 117-111, and even 119-109 are all defensible. Lomachenko was so cautious those first 7 rounds, allegedly studying his opponent, and possibly he was caught offguard by Lopez's power, handspeed, and/or footwork. (Lopez's footwork was probably the best aspect of his performance tonight, as he constantly worked his own angles for offense while preventing Lomachenko from creating his own angles for offense.) But his shockingly low workrate did not even challenge Lopez in those rounds, not until he started throwing a LITTLE in the 7th, and he never went to the body in an effort to tire Lopez out in the later rounds. Lopez maintained great focus, and he never made any mistakes for Lomachenko to capitalize on, but he also didn't have to physically get out of 2nd gear in those first 7 rounds. Basic math should have told Lomachenko he was already screwed by the time Round 8 began, because he doesn't have the Deontay Wilder-type power to bail himself out, especially not against the physically larger Lopez. Lomachenko's dominance in the 11th finally gave us a glimpse of what this fight could have been, but he must have shot his wad, because he had nothing in the 12th, and Lopez easily won it by landing numerous power punches. Lomachenko is still only 32, he hasn't been in any wars besides the Salido fight, and the 14-month layoff he was coming off wasn't egregious. I don't know if we will ever find out what happened with Lomachenko tonight, but it will go down as one of the biggest mysteries in boxing in recent years.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    What are you lol, K'ing about? You're strutting around here like it was some kind of Lopez shutout, being a nasty bitter belligerent scumbag to people on here. You're clearly in the minority here. Loma acquitted himself very well in this match, after the sixth round, arguably took between 4 to 5 of them, most people had it 7-5 Lopez. And you're acting like Julie Lederman had a good score card.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Yes and? I gave that round to Lopez. Your point?
     
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  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Who have I bullied? I wasn’t passive aggressive, I was very direct, if you thought that fight was a draw or really even close, you were wrong. Per the judges, per your peer (IB), and per most sensible boxing fans.
     
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  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Im acting like the best man won, no more no less. I also was very clear about being wrong with my prediction. If you think Loma acquitted himself well, have at it, I thought he fought scared and got beat clearly. We can agree to disagree.
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    I don't care what IB scored it, he and I disagree quite a lot, for what it's worth he said it could be a scored a draw as well. Never quote official scorecards on a Top Rank show as a validation for anything, it makes you sound like even more of a scoundrel than you already are. Lopez won, in a competitive match, and the fact that you're acting like it wasn't competitive really pisses me off because you're being an intellectually dishonest liar purposely trying to mislead people, and write your own false narrative.
     
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  14. Cafe

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    Damn just got to watch the fight.. Sucks as a Loma fan, he lost, just stepped on the gas too late. You just can't give away 5-6 rounds on the trot.
     
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  15. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s fine to want to take your opponent into the late rounds, but you have to win rounds first