Why Lomachenko was robbed..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Quina74, Oct 18, 2020.



  1. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

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    He lost. I'm not thrilled about that either but that's what happens when you are a non-participant in the 6 of the first 7 rounds, and get your $hit rocked in the 12th round. The Lederman card was complete nonsense though and she should be put out to pasture.
     
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  2. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you even read what I said. I've scored it using slow motion AND normal speed to better perceive how clean punches land. This is because judges have been doing this for years and are ikely to perceive more in a fight whereas a person who isn't a judge can supplement thsi by rewatching in both speeds. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this as it is easier to see what lands.. Youve just completed deflected by addressing this and can't be bothered to address the exchanges in the rounds.

    Its irrelevant if there isn't many who scored for Loma (which is untrue there are people with some analytical ability just so happens none here)
     
  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well on the judges etc I do agree in general they are snivvelling corrupt scum Weekes, A.Byrd, Cortez bayliss the list goes on , but you cannot compare your finding in slo-Mo to the actual Judges scores can you, its unrealistic. I am not saying that they didn't miss alot of work from both fighters but in this case I do not think there was an agenda...mainly because ODH is not involved...
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Ok then please justify this nonsense.
    Why does it being harder to do (even if that's the case) mean it should count more? That just doesn't follow. It's also hard to land a punch if you close both your eyes before throwing it, should that also count for more? All that matters with a punch is how clean it landed, and how hurtfull it was.

    It makes no sense to score something under a different criteria than it was fought under.

    Also this
    You said you scored it about even or edge to Lopez initially. That means at most you've rescored 2 of the rounds you gave to Loma, and all the ones you've gave to Lopez. That's a masive bias that will inherantly skew it massively. How would you react to someone rescoring the fight, but only after round 5 because Lopez clearly won the first 5 rounds, with Loma not doing much, and not round 12, because Lopez clearly won that too.
     
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  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was not. Loma L was because he ran and did nothing for 7 round. END OF! Losemaschenko loss fair and square.
     
  6. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you want someone who loses to win, you amplify the things they did well and minimize the things they didn't. Lopez landed a lot of body shots? Then they must not be hard to land and shouldn't count for much.

    Someone on another thread said that Loma should have been scored more generously because he had three belts. How are these LESS biased ways of scoring?
     
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  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You raise a very fair point around headshots. From an amateur perspective, this would have been a schooling from Lomachenko for headshots. Regardless Lomachenko shots were cleaner and more frequent. Lopez jab and right hands to the body were not as clean and frequent as Lomas work. But I did account for this despite not detailing it in my initial post. For example I will have scored something similar throughout: a 3/5 for Lomas jab to the head but 4/5 for a jab to the body for Lopez

    Your second point is valid too but kinda moot.. I scored rounds 1 to 6 this way because they were low activity rounds. Watching 8 to 11 initially Lomachenko was landing at will, Lopez did have some nice shots tho. I'm working on an assumption here clearly but a very valid one. You're again just just deflecting from the fact you're unable to score rounds 3 and 6.
    Please if you want to debate this go through rounds 3 and 6 with timestamps, if you can give me good argument I'll concede.
     
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Disagree. Teofemale's body shots landed cleanly all night. Most of the headshots were partially blocked, but still seemed to bother Lomachenko. That's the power differential.
     
  9. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What’s with this Teofemale crap? Guy is a professional boxer and probably has a better looking wife than any woman you incels have been with. Maybe you are projecting.
     
  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm you know your last paragraph might be seen by some as speculation ...:)
     
  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is akin to: I went back and watched the football game that my team watched and decided to award 12 points for touchdowns where the quarterback only had three receivers out on patterns and 2 points for rushing TDs inside the 5-yard line, which my team’s opponent used to score all its points ... and guess what? My team won!!!
     
  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not that clearly, easily no eyebrows raised if a draw as called imo
     
  14. N17

    N17 VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm waiting for the next thread.. "Why Whyte Was Robbed Against Povetkin".
     
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  15. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not with Pakkumen.