The differences between the careers of Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather.

None of those fighters i listed are greater than pbf Facts! The ring has more credibility than anyone in here. Also those list are made up from a panel it's not just one person's word.

 

You can't say facts after something which isn't true.

That's why it isn't credible. A group of people who don't know the amount they should, isn't gonna be worth as much as one person who knows more than all of them.

Holman Williams is greater. So is Ortiz and so is Gibbons.

The fact that you don't know any of them are, makes no difference to that.

 

I've been here for years back then he was called pbf so I stick with it. It's short and easy same way a refer to Lomachenko as loma or Pacquiao as pac or whitaker as pea.

Save your homosexual fantasy for some one else.

 

I know who they are and on no reputable list will any of these fighters be ranked greater than pbf. You saying I don't know them doesnt make your case.

 

By all means, give me a quick breakdown of why they're great then... Y'know, best wins, notable feats and such.

And what you think are 'reputable' lists is a just something written by someone who doesn't know who these guys are. That's why they appeal to you.

 

For what? So you can just say you don't know **** and discredit it? I wont play your game. None of these fighters are greater, some of the guys on that list you made were but not the ones I mentioned. They're not greater than hopkins let alone pbf stop!

 

No, so I can see whether you know who you're talking about and whether or not I should take it seriously when you make claims such as "there's not 30 fighters greater than pbf". And seeing as though you don't, I'm not.

Okay son. When you know who they are, I'll listen to you when you say things like that.

Everyone I mentioned on that list is greater, or at least arguable in the case of the bottom five. There's more guys who are also arguably greater. They all have better wins. That's for damn sure.

You're talking like there's some huge gap between Mayweather and Hopkins

 

You're a pbf hater I don't give a damn what you say. Your word isn't law. I'll take the word of the ring and other media outlets over someone like you who has an agenda. Nether Williams nor gibbons are never ranked on any top 80 or 100 lists but yet they're greater than pbf??? Lmfao!!! Log off

Lastly there are not 30 greater fighters than pbf period. Your list is a joke.

 

"oh he disagrees he must be a hater"

 

Your list is trash two of those fighters I mentioned aren't even top 80 fighters of all time. Neither were even considered top 5 fighters of their eras.

 

Means a helluva lot more than yours

You'll take the word of those who have Carlos Monzon at #11? Or Carmen Basilio at 40? Or Khaosai Galaxy top 50? Okay....

http://archive.boxing.media/the_100_greatest_fighters_of_all_time_part_eight_30_21.html
http://www.boxing.com/the_100_greatest_fighters_of_all_time_part_seven_40_31.html

 

He didn't complain on camera it wasn't on the broadcast between rounds. Also roach said it was over after the 4th that could mean he knew he had no answer for pbf and knew he was out of his depth. Even still it's an excuse and pbf beat pac clearly.

He's greater because he's the best fighter of his era was lineal at 2 weights simultaneously best defensive fighter ever goat at 130. What makes Ortiz who's arguably not a top 50 atg and gibbons who's barely worth talking about greater?? Neither were considered the best fighter of their eras not close.