Top 50 Lightweights of All-Time.... (help me)

I think Ortiz is a little high and Armstrong is a little low. Outside to that no issues here.

 

Ortiz and Armstrong are pretty much perfectly placed imo.

 

Sorry I didn't reply on the Holiday-Dorin thread mate, I'll try to get back on that as best I can.

With the mid to late fifties lightweights I find it a tricky period. Unlucky to sit between two great eras and clearly without the top heavy number of outstanding contenders/champions of other eras. A lot of the top fighters had spotty records but fought each other frequently exchanging wins and losses and it was very competitive. I can't see many, if any, outside of the obvious names cracking a top 50 in such a deep division tbh - the discussion about them in terms of ranking here probably has more value in how they rank as notches on the coshes of greater fighters, which is a bit unfair. Many of them warrant wider discussion though on their own merits and in context. Footage doesn't seem as widely available for a lot of them though, and the probable deceptiveness of many of their records takes a lot of research to get a handle on. There were some very underrated fighters though even without digging too deeply. Lane, Rosi, Busso, Charnley etc before you even start looking at Bud Smith, Cisco Andrade, Joey Lopez, Zulueta etc.

 

Lane was a fine, fine fighter who didn't have much luck imo. The close either way type fight against Brown when he was tight on the scales, the cut in the Ortiz rematch and weight drained in the rubber match. The type of fighter who'd be a nightmare for a lot of fighters who ultimately achieved more than him. Ortiz was always very impressed by him iirc and rated him up there with the best guys he faced.