Ha! Really? REALLY? Stylistic weaknesses? This is what you said earlier on in the thread: “Toney was being SCHOOLED by Nunn until he GASSED” GTFO! You have zero credibility. How can anybody take you seriously when you make such ludicrous statements?? We’re almost at 70 pages, yet you have added NOTHING to the debate.
The guy is a joke. He’s just told me that Reggie Johnson was outboxed by 7 guys. Ha! We now know for sure that he debates purely on Boxrec without watching the fights. That is 100% conclusive proof. Add that to the fact that by his own admission, he only saw the Toney-McCallum fights just last month, then we are dealing with an immature man who has zero knowledge on the topic being discussed.
You are a joke. Pure and simple. You want to include entire career losses, but only when it suits. When it suits, you ask questions such as: “How could a fighter who lost to the 5 best guys he fought have beaten GG?” Yet when people note that GG struggled with Canelo and Jacobs, you start crying saying that he wasn’t prime etc. Also, you don’t believe that Mike lost 5 times, because you think that he beat Toney. Ha! You are a Boxrec warrior. You have just told me that Reggie Johnson was outboxed by SEVEN guys. Ha! 1. No he wasn’t. 2. He only lost to SIX guys. You have been caught out. How dare you question my boxing knowledge when you don’t even know how many guys Reggie Johnson lost to? You’re an absolute disgrace.
GTFO with this garbage. You debate on fights you HAVEN’T SEEN. You debate on Boxrec stats. You make spin off threads if you’re not getting the results that you want. You don’t give credit for wins over great fighters, if they happen to be close fights or if the opponents are at an advanced age. You focus on the worst versions of your favourite fighter’s fantasy opponent, whilst you cry if other members do the same. Your are unable to answer simple questions that have been set, and can only answer them when you’ve put your own spin on them. You should literally be embarrassed of your actions. The only guy who supports you here is a clown who thinks that Nunn was schooling Toney until he gassed. A clown who compared Mike McCallum to Trevor Berbick. You should both hang your heads in shame.
And you have both spoke of McCallum’s losses at 39 and 40, at divisions which were 2-3 classes above MW.
No. It shows you how much better Mike was to GG. At 35, Mike beat James Toney. (In your opinion) At the same age, GG struggled with Danny Jacobs and Canelo.
More BS. GG marks up a lot. How many times has he been cut? How many cuts did James have in a career that spanned 90 fights? How on earth can you be so confident of a GG win, when he struggled against Jacobs at the age that Toney beat Jirov, and he never beat anybody great in his prime? GG is UNPROVEN against great fighters in his prime.
Okay. But this is prime for prime, where each fighter would have fought to their full capabilities. So consistency isn’t a factor. And Toney was very consistent with his MW results. His performances weren’t always consistent, but his results were. He only had a few blips out of 40 fights at the weight. Toney had the better wins at the weight. Toney faced more styles at the weight. Toney was tested more and was more proven at the weight. GG could absolutely have beaten Toney. But prime for prime, if you had to bet, you’d bet on the more proven guy who had the better wins.
Are we back to your phlegm emissions? No, I just wrote that as an idle aside. Are you deaf? Are we back to me issuing you clarifications of common english words? Correct. Simply because you don't understand what you are seeing, is not my problem. Oh, swoon. You have the credibility of a recently deceased amoeba. How can anybody take you seriously when you don't understand anything you see, and as a result struggle to keep up with the discussion? Are you ten? There are surely websites somewhere on the internet that discuss marbles and tictactoe. I suggest you find those. ^Opinion
Toney clearly wasn’t at his best for Tiberi, and nobody stopped him, even when way past his best up at HW. So that is a bold statement.
Every now and again super-Toney fanboy Loudon swallows some M&M's he finds behind the couch and gets a sugar rush. This, ladies and gents, is the result
