Heavyweights: When the smaller, slower man won

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm interested in examples of the smaller, slower heavyweight winning the fight. There are a few but I think only a few. Let's say:

    15lbs smaller.
    And both men have to be ranked by Ring or TBRB or there has to be a very good reason why not.

    What examples would you give?

    And if there are as few as I think, would you agree that it's a hell of a brake on picking, say, Sonny Liston over Wladimir Klitschko?


    EDIT: EXAMPLES OF SMALLER, SLOWER FIGHTERS BEATING BIGGER, FASTER MEN.
     
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    Haye valuev
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Frazier - Mathis is the first candidate that comes to mind.
     
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    You think Haye was slower than Valuev?
     
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  5. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It's a tough one, but:

    Frazier Ali
    Marciano Walcott
    Holmes-Spinks maybe
    Possibly Langford v Jeanette/Wills but it's not possible to verify this
     
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    Mathis was ranked?
     
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    Bogey picker Former child banned Full Member

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    Yes have u got a problem with that baldy
     
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  8. McGrain

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    :lol: carry on.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Baer vs Braddock and Carnera
     
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    Schmelling-Louis - I think Louis had faster hands but Schmelling timed Louis to perfection

    Kind of. His best shot is taking PEDs and fighting the Wlad who lost to Brewster. I don't fancy a 210lb Liston against a 240lb Wlad.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Schmeling and Louis were the same weight.

    What is happening here?
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Baer was smaller and slower than both Braddock and Carnera?

    Is this question causing your minds to short circuit, every single answer has been atrocious :lol:
     
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    6lbs whopping weight advantage and I tend to think Louis was the naturally bigger stronger man. Schmelling's early career was at LHW
     
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    Brewster - Klitschko
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    Did Baer beat Braddock?

    Baer was, in my eye at least, I assumed everyone's, quicker and bigger than Braddock, but smaller and slower than Carnera. He lost to one, and not the other.

    I thought my answer was fine.
     
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