Lomas surgery

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Somali Sanil, Oct 25, 2020.



  1. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If he'd have cancelled & rescheduled it would have meant he'd have been inactive for at least 18 months by the time it came around again, that is a disaster for an ageing reflex fighter.. as for not mentioning it beforehand, his team WAS aware of it, his father tried to get him to pull out of the fight and the doctor was treating the shoulder also, so it wasn't a dormant issue waiting to be put right at a later date. Why didn't he make it public? I don't suspect any fighter would willingly make a weakness public before a fight would they? Rock & a hard place really, we can criticise him for not pulling out of the fight but he'd have got criticism for doing so aswell.. & you could also tell from his demeanour (ring walk , in between early rounds etc) that something was amiss.. he looked vacant & downbeat. All told, there was an issue, they tried to manage it, he didn't want to pull out, it backfired. I had it a draw personally but the judges saw different.. I think his plan was to just try & land a big counter but Lopez was too big & too durable & when he realised it wasn't going to work he probably just bit down and went for it which as we've seen aggravated the injury further. Fair play to Lopez, he can only beat what's in front of him but to suggest people don't have a right to bring this issue up in regards to this fight is a nonsense.. every fight has context text and talking points.. now suddenly these are excuses? I can almost guarantee that every poster dismissing this issue as an excuse now have themselves brought up similar issues in the past in relation to other fights..
     
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  2. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's the word i was looking for lol
     
  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You really are mentally touched in the head. That was a post PRAISING him, his skill, talent, IQ, and athleticism as a fighter. But we found out Saturday night it was all a facade, he had just never fought an opponent up to par, then gets an absolute SCHHOLING lesson in boxing by a 23 year old kid 5 years removed from fighting in the Golden Gloves. What does any of that have to do with his bull**** butthurt excuses.

    Im sure of myself, and im tye first to admit I probably overrated Loma more than anyoje here, but im also gonna be the first to own up to it lioe a man and say I was wrong. Thats part of being a man.

    Fact: Teofimo Lopez made the supposed magic magician established top 3 p4p boxer in the world look like a basic-at-best one dimensional fighter who was lazy and had NO contingency plan. He ficking embarrassed him and made him his woman on national television.
    This sounds just as pathetic if not more than the David Haye toe excuse.

    :lol:Little man. I last fought in the golden gloves at heavyweight. I'd make you look like a 10 year old emaciated somalian. Pussee
     
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  4. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And lets not forget tbe gap in opposition. Teo had fought a couple decent to good fighters up until that night. Lomachenko has been fighting world class champions since he was 18. Shut the **** up Loma with your excuses, a 23 year old green AF kid checked your nuts, slapped you, and took your lunch money and you didn't do **** about it. Injuries happen in fights, if he was injured in-fight, thats on him thats part of being a fighter his body let him down. Two's didn't, Teo's maintained machine status all night long. How couldn't, when did Lomax ever throw a widow-maker shot on Lopez and land it? None, just like against everyone else he fought.

    Hate to say it but some fighters come back stronger from defeat. Not Loma, it will be a steep slide from here on out if he continues fighting the best, he was figured out so badly Saturday every
    fighter near his weight class has him figured out text-book style and will have mind control on him.
     
  5. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think there is a major reason Loma hasn't fought any elite Mexican/American fighters in his career - they would have body bagged him and shown the world how sorry his intestinal fortitude is. Besides canelo, **** that clown.
     
  6. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    If the shoulder needed urgent surgery postfight then he needed that prefight too.
    Loma might have been inactive for extended period if rescheduled, but now he is title less.

    Of course no fighter is going to go public if got injury but still intend fighting, i never suggested any fighter would or should.

    If as you say his demeanour even on ring walk showed something was amiss, then the whole team need to have a word with themselves as that sure was not managing the issue in the slightest., as you are suggesting he knew he was not able to fight effectively even before entering the ring

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    the shoulder was indeed as bad as stated, Loma must have been on seriously powerful pain relief during training to be doing that walking on palms and knuckles routine that he exhibited, that pressure tests your shoulders for sure.

    Fact is Loma lost, now whether shoulder was reason or excuse makes little difference, he is without the belts.
    If Loma does look to regain the titles and achieves a rematch, then i look forward to him doing so with both shoulders in full working order, and any other issues he might have will have been rectified.
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    18 months is horse****. Pulled from nowhere.
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    No urgent surgery occured.
     
  9. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    2 days after the fight is mighty quick for a orthopaedic surgical procedure.
    No surgeon would plan to do surgery on a patient who recently had engaged in physical combat for 12 rounds within 2 day time frame without sound reason. There is plenty of time to do it after body recovered from the exertion, getting hit in head and body for 12 rounds is not the best pre op preparation.
     
  10. C.J.

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    What amazes me is that none of the Floyd lemmings have bragged that both Pac & Loma had to have surgery for a rotator cuff tear but Floyd didn't need it Lennie's stroking & caressing cured Floyd's supposed injury against Castillo
    Floyd is Superman ROFLMAO!!!
     
  11. NoNeck

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    Do you know this for a fact or are you making it up? Urgent implies irreparable damage if the surgery is not quickly done. Do you know that was the case, for a fact, or are you making it up to support your fanboyism?
     
  12. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah......I don't agree. Loma is getting older now. He's 34 years old already.
     
  13. drenlou

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    In your opinion then hes shot... Case closed for you buddy.
     
  14. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your complete 180 is not a good look. Trying to save face by claiming you “owned up to it like a man” isn’t any better. It’s just an off handed way to compliment yourself.

    Being wrong is normal. All of us get it wrong. What you just did is not normal. How can you expect anyone else to take your opinions seriously when you just proved that you yourself have zero faith in them?
     
  15. bandeedo

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    gauging his knowledge on the subject, which is boxing, is the only way to take anyone seriously. He has shown himself to understand boxing, at a level most of you don't, so his colorful way of expressing his opinion isn't really detracting from the truth behind his assessments, of boxing and of himself. I take him a hell of a lot more seriously than someone who swore loma was going to school this boy, and is now making excuses for what actually occurred.
     
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