Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Dereck Chisora & Lee Selby vs. George Kambosos Jnr. RBR.

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  1. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Spot On, :thumbsup:
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yeah
     
  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah.

    Sorry , if you think that I do not have this critical thinking, then your rights are to think so.
    You stated that he had put on 20 lbs. Not I.
    You think that I do not know this? This is weight in normative not normative for the boxer to walk around on be in training camp at this weight limit.
    I think I should not link weight classes and normatives, post very long lists to bulk forum till boring mesh to prove someone something.

    More than this, you do not know Usyk's weight walking around and after training camp.
    Only for official weight ins.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :thumbsup:
     
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  5. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was drinking and smoking at a fireside Halloween session so sorry I didn't comment, I was providing viewing for a crowd of 10. Usyk looked fantastic when he turned it on, seemed to hurt Chisora badly at the end of three or four rounds. He can definitely do damage at heavyweight with that movement and pace.
     
  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don`t know how much exactly Usyk was weighting on fight night. Everyone gaining weight back, and i already stated that.
    But you clearly see the added size on Usyk. Its pretty obvious how lean he was on CW, and that he is a bit "messy" now(can`t get the right word right now).
    But on what fight he was 217 ?
    Cause on most of his fight, where there is info about he is 207/208. On WSB against Joyce he was 211, but that is on WSB ...
    Against Hunter on fight night he was 207 btw.
    Still i never say he is 200 at fight night and i never say he is staying at 200 while training.
    And still its obvious how his body change, that he gain obvious weight.
     
  7. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    he put 17lbs on the scales, his walk around weight is irrelevant man.

    so many fighters walk around 15-20lbs then their weight class, welterweights at 160, mw's at 180lbs. when you step on those scales at the weigh in that determines the weight class you fight in.

    uysk may not of put on20lbs, he put on 17lbs as the scale read! does it really matter how much he weighs before a morning dump or a big kebab, or a lazy sluggish netflix binge weekend!

    hes now at heavyweight. end off discussion, unless you want to talk about the fight?
     
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  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin is 41! and over the hill 5+ years ago.
    Still yes, for sales fight vs Povetkin definitely looked better than vs Chisora and Whiterspoon.
    Usyk probably had higher purse than from these both fights together.
     
  9. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Matador >Bull tonight, size matters but that was an elite smaller guy versus a decent bigger guy.. Usyk is a fencer, Chisora is a scrum half lol
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    Agreed but they are all below Usyk in the pecking order so they don’t warrant discussion right now when people talk about potential Usyk opponents.

    I’m just in awe of Usyk and can’t wait until he fights Joshua.
     
  11. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had it 117-111 for Usyk by the way, first three for Chisora, Usyk took over from there.
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Thats entirely incorrect. Its depends a lot. Yeah in some cases if you don`t know what your looking for, you may think it doesn`t indicate or for people who just think if you are very learn or muscular, that indicates that someone is on roids.
    Sometimes you may not understand if the guy is taking and is very fat, its very hard to tell solely on the body if someone is taking or not.
    But roids gives very different looks to the body, comparing to natural. Still saying that, its also depend on what roids you take. :D
     
  13. FastSmith7

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    Also, this was the best Chisora has ever been and was still dismantled fairly easily
     
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  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Clear by whatever criteria you were using. Chisora was just as clearly the winner by mine. I scored damage while you scored technique and clean punching. All of the technique and clean punching was done on Usyk's side. All of the damage was done on Chisora's.
     
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  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it is not irrelevent.
    If you are walking around at 199 lbs, to be 217 lber you should gain 18 lbs weight.

    If you are walking around at 209 lbs, to be 217 lber you should gain only 8 lbs weight.

    It does matter a very big difference, for guy not commision or fans of course.



    of course.
    Usually boxer weight more before intensive training camp started.
    Dear God, in intensive camp weight too usually reduces not is gained up.
    Then control weight ins too are done on routine basis.
    Then is prep for weight in in weight class limit final etap.

    Maybe we could be more mhmm, friendly and patient? I'm not going here to make confilcts or insult someone.
     
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