You should get every cent you can and lay it on his never holding a belt. You will do OK. Re-mortgage your house, borrow money from your parents and bet he won't get one before the end of 2024 say.
That's what they said about Pacquiao and then Ricky Hatton, DLH and Cotto almost died. Usyk is the new Pac. The bigger, slicker version of Pac.
you really see pacs situation same as usyks? pac had beaten atg fighters by the time he smashed the guys you mention. it would take me days to find someone on the street who could name a fighter usyk has beat.
Definitely a difference for sure. Holy was a beast and probably my all time favorite. I've been an Usyk supporter but it's definitely comparing apples to oranges, he's not Holyfield.
Usyk cleaned out the toughest division in the sport. Same as Pac did. 200 was the toughest division in boxing during's Usyks prime. 126-130 was the strongest divisions in Pac's prime.
its only the toughest division because usyks fans say it is. i never saw it, and im no noob. not saying they were scrap, but i know what talent looks like.
he fought at a few other weights, check it out. some of those feathers were considered pretty good by pretty much everyone too. good enough to be multidivisional champions. look into it.
Holyfield had underrated defense too. He'd stand in the pocket and ride the shots. Sure he got hit but not always with full impact. Usyk on the other hand rather use his feet and head movement for defense. Doesn't really stay in optimal punching range. Some would call him a runner. It depends on what you like.
not sure if he fights that way cause he lacks the power, or he lacks the power because he fights that way. its amazing that the same people that were brought back to earth about loma, are doubling down on usyk. myself, and pistal, who posted above, both wrote about where loma actually was and who would beat him and why. pretty much spot on. and i notice that the same people that were making loma the atg lightweight who could beat duran, are now pushing their chips in on usyk. its mental, but predictable. and when and if usyk gets beat down by a ruiz or parker, i suspect they will go with the most agreed on excuse, and move on to the next hype exercise.
Lol no doubt. I'm not too sure either. I'm leaning towards the latter but I'm not 100%. I think he just has that point fighting style.
Not sure if you are talking about holy or Spinks. I stated that I do not know about the Spinks case. I am not sure if it is something where there are serious accusations or not. I blame nothing on PEDS in his case. I just mention it parenthetically. I am not "blaming everything" on PEDS with Holy. He had great technique and heart. My verdict with him is that it knocks him down a few notches. If he had not had the PEDS accusations (and, given the facts of the case, there is no doubt whatsoever that he did HGH) I might have him as high as three. The competition he beat was second only to Ali. As it were, I think the PEDS knock him down to seven or eight. We will have to make similar assessments for Jones, Fury, Povetkin, etc. Although I think the Fury accusation is manifestly bull****, history is going to judge how much it detracts from his legacy. All that I am saying is that it is apples to oranges. Usyk obviously is not on PEDS, so no real comparison is possible. Apples to oranges.
Fair post. I don't knock Holyfield down over peds only because I firmly believe 97% of fighters back then were on them too. But I understand your reasoning.
