P4P Comparison - Inoue vs Ryan Garcia

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With all the crazy talk going on about Inoue being P4P #1, and discussing fighter's flaws, instead of comparing him to Canelo, why don't we compare him to a guy more his size.

    How does Inoue compare to Ryan Garcia P4P? I don't see Ryan Garcia in too many P4P lists but personally I see him and Inoue as a fascinating comparison as to who should be higher P4P. Both have exactly 20 fights, both have 20 wins and both have 17 KOs.

    But who's better P4P? A poster said one of Inoue's flaws is his defense. That's a big part of P4P isn't it? Ryan Garcia has much better defense than Inoue don't you think and is more of a pure boxer than Inoue. Pure boxers with solid fundamentals and defense typically end up higher P4P. So why isn't Ryan Garcia in the P4P conversation and what makes Inoue deserve to be higher than him?
     
  2. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This just has to be bait, way too ret@rded to be serious.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    God, you're incorrigible. Although it's nice to see you have a new crush. I totally get it, Kingry is way hotter than Canelo.


    But he ain't got **** on The Monster.:deal:
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give me a break. How do you rate Ryan Garcia and how does he compare to Inoue P4P? If you think Inoue is better P4P fine, but I want to hear the arguments and counter arguments for that. Surely Garcia has much better defense and fundamentals than Inoue. But is Inoue more explosive and athletic? I think so. This seems to be a very relevant and interesting comparison.
     
  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Damn, Shadow hating on Inoue... Wonder if the hate is related to a former flyweight named Archie Solis banging Clenelo's girlfriend and then Clenelo breaking his jaw.

    :lol:
     
  6. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Ryan Garcia hasn't fought a guy w/ a pulse. That had to spelled out for you?
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's the deal with your sexuality based comments? It's cringe city to be trying to have a legit boxing comparison and then you come along acting like a 16 year old school girl.
     
  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Lmao. WTF has Ryan Garcia accomplish to make the comparison ?

    Now you know why people on this forum call you a dick rider. To compare a p4p fighter with actual accomplishment to a prospect that hasn’t done **** is something a dick riding fan does or someone with no boxing knowledge at all. I’ll let you pick.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're the one that brought it up clown shoes. And please, 16 year old fangirl. Don't go there.
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Hating" on Inoue? Bro this topic is off the heels of a hilarious Inoue P4P #1 topic in which people are actually arguing that Inoue is better P4P than Canelo lmao. Bro the amount of hate on Canelo is off the charts around here. Even if I was hating on Inoue, which I'm not, it would be a drop in the bucket to the hate that Canelo gets around here.

    So again I'll pose the question HOW do Ryan Garcia and Inoue compare P4P? What makes Inoue better P4P. EXPLAIN! Make your arguemnts if you believe Inoue is better! This is a much more relevant and better comparison than Inoue and Canelo which is flat out laughable.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL nice avator pic btw lol I guess you got other things on your mind huh.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What has Inoue accomplished? Who has he beat? Beating an almost 37 year old Donaire? That's what makes Inoue more deserving not his skills?
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    title belts in three different weight classes, eight wins against current or former world champions.

    This thread of your show how shallow you are. You should change your name to Shallow111. You got but hurt over a mythical ranking cause your man crush isn’t their number 1 on other people’s list. Pretty damn pathetic and shallow
     
  14. CST80

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    Yeah, I'd much rather look at a hot woman, instead of having a bizarre repulsive picture of the man I hate, being punched in the face. But hey... hang your hat on a freeze frame, that paints a completely different picture of both of those matches, than reality that occurred in the ring. You're a sick man, with a one track mind, you wake in the morning thinking about Canelo, and go to sleep at night thinking about Canelo. That's quite an unhealthy obsession you have there. You're a deranged freak and you need some help.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't it funny how you use the argument that Ryan Garcia hasn't fought anyone to say that Inoue shoud be higher P4P but I make the same argument about Canelo and all the people he fought but that doesn't matter anymore? Compared to Canelo, both Inoue and Ryan Garcia hasn't fought anyone in the realm of the guys that Canelo fought. I mean lets face it there's not that many big names at the lower weights but ask yourself is the competition in Japan better or worse than in the USA? The vast majority would say USA has the best competition that's where Garcia has fought most of his fights.

    Lets take Ryan Garcia's last opponent. Francisco Fonseca. He is 27-3-2. His losses are to Tank Davis, Tevin Farmer and Ryan Garcia. That's a respectable opponent is it not? The guy Garcia actually fought top fighters like Tank and Farmer. Jason Moloney hasnt fought fighters as good as Tank or Farmer. Rodriguez was undefeated when he fought Inoue, but ask yourself if Rodriguez had fought Tank or Farmer he'd have 2 losses too.