P4P Comparison - Inoue vs Ryan Garcia

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    And to answer your question.... CASUAL.


    No, the only thing that matters as far as P4P rankings go is resume.

    Ryan Garcia's is pisspoor. Especially when you take into consideration he struggled mightily with a journeyman like Carlos Morales. What are his best wins exactly? Duno, Velez and Fonseca? Jesus Christ, how dreadful.

    Whereas Inoue has Donaire, Moloney, Rodriguez, McDonnell, Narvaez, Taguchi, Kono, Payano, Carmona, Hernandez, Nieves, and Jarupainerd. Almost all of them in the Top 5 or 10 of their respective divisions.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does my avator bother you? I can change if it really bothers you. It's there to remind you what happened, you say it paints a comlpetely different picture of both matches lol. Well yeah I guess it would paint a different picture if you live in la la land and ignore these kinds of punches. But but punch output. One cracking shot that rattles a man's brains >>> a bunch of shots that barely land without any power. You don't seem to be able to grasp this concept.

    You want to talk about being a deranged freak? Here I am trying to discuss boxing and you continue to try to paint a picture about me to detract from the boxing discussion. What do you think you're accomplishing by coming at me sideways as you have been. You have no clue about me and for you to act like you do is OCD to the extreme.

    How about try sticking to talking boxing for a change instead of spazzing out at me with sexually charged ramblings?
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How about him as a fighter vs Inoue as a fighter. What is Ryan Garcia better at than Inoue? What is Inoue better at than Ryan Garcia? Lets start here - who has better defense?
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK so with that as your criteria, then Canelo would be clearly ahead of Inoue P4P?
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, your avatar doesn't bother me, but you brought mine up first. So I had to respond in kind. I only change mine roughly once a week or every two weeks, or haven't you noticed? This is probably my 200th different avatar, they tend to be actors or actresses I'm fond of. But I doubt you're very good at noticing patterns, considering it still hasn't dawned on you that your Canelo obsession goes much deeper than you think it does.

    You went there first you piece of crap. Someone asked a question about Canelo's hairline, I answered and you couldn't take it, and had to defend your boyfriend's honor. See a pattern? You do something to provoke, then turn around, and accuse the person you provoked of doing what you provoked them with. Either that's intentional, or you're just too stupid to realize it.

    The fact that you think GGG's shots have little power, proves how much of deranged idiot you really are.

    How about talking about something that doesn't directly tie back to your homoerotic fixation on Canelo Alvarez and everything in the orbit of Canelo Alvarez?

    Don't respond to this, that's a hard warning.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Looks like we got another school girl to attend the CST80 Sweet 16 party. We got a lot of insecure boxing fans who lose their brains when trying to discuss boxers who are good looking. Look, if you have a crush on Ryan Garcia that's your business. But don't involve me with your sexual attraction to Ryan Garcia. This topic is about discussing their boxing not who is better looking you clowns.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Nothing. Not even defense, the one man he faced that negated his defense, tagged him plenty.

    Yes.
     
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  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Inoue has completely dominated and/or obliterated his opposition. Only 3 men have seen the final bell. Donaire, who is significantly bigger, turned back the clock and gave the performance of his life, still lost clearly to Inoue despite enjoying a facial injury advantage early in the fight. Oh, and Inoue was robbed of a KO victory. Carmona survived because Inoue broke his hand early in the fight. Taguchi was just his fourth pro fight.

    Clenelo had robbery wins over Golovkin (twice), Lara, and Trout.

    Inoue has hurt and dropped every single opponent he's faced. Golovkin, Lara, Mayweather, and Jacobs were never hurt or dropped. Inoue has been more dominant by a large margin.

    Clenelo has failed drug tests, created his own weight division, hung crippling rehdyration clauses on opponents. Inoue hasn't.

    Inoue is clearly more skilled offensively and the much harder hitter P4P. Clenelo might have a slight edge in defense, but even then I'm not so sure. Inoue does gets tagged, but he doesn't get hit any more than Clenelo, Crawford, or Lomachenko. And keep in mind Inoue doesn't spoil — he's on the hunt for the KO from the opening bell.
     
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  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Why ...wah wah..why do you guys not have Canelo rank #1 on your P4P list. Wah wah wah

    It’s ok Shallow111. He will always be number one to you
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good to hear your thoughts. I knew you could do it. I was about to respond to your other post but you gave me a hard warning so by that, it seems that if I respond you would then boot me and use your modding powers, so I don't want to lose my account therefore it would not be a good idea to respond to that post. However if you decide to "let" me respond I would like to. But I can't since you're a mod and you would probably boot me. (I don't want to get booted thanks)
     
  11. sparta

    sparta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your kidding right?
     
  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Easy,
    Easy, the Monster! He is a 3 time division champ in the same amount of fights as Garcia. He's accomplished more in the same amount of fights, against better opposition. Hope this helps.
     
  13. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I think you might be experiencing top of the spectrum autism. Or this is simply a bait thread. Either way...as everyone here will tell you....

    Garcia hasn’t fought anyone worth anything and is the example of putting speed before everything else. He’s not on P4P lists as you said for good reason.

    Inoue has power in both hands, technique and an great all around complete skill set and has faced champions.

    Go home you’re drunk.
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not drunk. I am home, I am talking to you from my home. This is where I come after a long hard day's work to talk boxing and engage in intelligent dialog. So your reasons why Inoue is better because of who he fought and having power in both hands. That's a fair argument, but that's not what P4P is about at its core. It's not about comparing resumes, it's about how good of a fighter you are, and how your skills that you display in matches compare against other boxers.

    A point of contention would be who has better technique. One point that was made was that Inoue keeps his chin sticking out after throwing hooks. Garcia doesn't leave his chin sticking out like that. Garcia doesn't get hit as much as Inoue. Inoue leaves himself wide open and one day could get stopped. It will be harder to stop Ryan Garcia because he is so defensively sound.

    If Inoue ever fought Ryan Garcia he would be in deeper waters that he ever has before. It might look like Rigo Loma or Loma Lopez in the ease at which Ryan Garcia would pick Inoue apart.
     
  15. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    You are a terrible poster .posters on thr forum actually relate me to you. But man now im embarrassed..... Wtf shadow you are a terrible poster. The troll is obvious.
     
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