What is running to you?

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  1. dogcatcher

    dogcatcher Active Member Full Member

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    For years I've heard fans describe Mayweathers infighting and catch and counters as running. I wouldn't describe standing in the pocket and making your opponent miss as running. I'll admit he did a ton of running and holding against Pacquiao, but other than that he's not the definition of a runner to me.

    On the other hand people praise Usyk for being slick, when he isn't very good on the inside. Instead he uses his mobility (running) to avoid his opponents forward pressure.

    Which style would you call running?
     
  2. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    i hate the term, but froch v. dirrell was probably the closest i've seen to it.
    dirrell 'won' the fight, but just wasn't active enough.

    regarding the elephant in the room (floyd), i think most people who called him a runner are just pissed that he didn't stand in front of his opponents like a log so they could beat him.

    my sympathies to all the beer and popcorn fans out there who didn't get the chance to smell blood in floyd's fights.
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Highly conditioned boxers who don't like to get hit

    Most boxers can't do a 12 round peak-run, so they end up having to develop more fighting skills to avoid getting knocked out brutally when their legs are gone.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Running is moving away from someone without punching. Think Camacho-Chavez.

    Out-boxing is where you move away from them, but still land the better scoring punches, think most Mayweather fights.
     
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  5. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BJS's style is what I would call running. It's boring as hell.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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  7. captain hook

    captain hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lets be honest here, who likes to get hit?

    Its like when opponent team scores a goal, nobody likes it, but it's a part of the game.

    I would rather say these boxers have some brains, and they know that they'll loose some of it after getting a lot of punches in the head. Maybe they want to avoid dementia in later years, we are not all Chuvalo or La Motta..

    There is a moto in my boxing club, better your legs hurt then the head. And yeah, we all run :D

    On topic - Running is when you go backwards without throwing punches or missing with punches. If you do only defensive movements and go backwards, its a lost round in my opinion. If you go backwards and hit the opponent who is following you, that is a won round. It is opponents problem if he is following you and getting hit..
     
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  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When it comes to pure jab-n-run-boxing Chris John is the man he had a great career and the ATG win over prime JMM, eventually Chris John legs gave in. For longevity heavy handed counter punchers remain dangerous up until the end, JMM again is a great example with his legendary TKO 6 win. Brain decline will no longer be a problem in the near-future, advanced mass-therapy will help all humans feel content, intelligent input will override and help humans operate adequately.
     
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  9. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    The way I look at this is like this- if there were two of that fighter in the ring, would there be a fight?

    Would Mayweather vs Mayweather be a fight? Would Andre Ward vs Andre Ward be a fight?

    Some "counter punchers" simply wait the whole fight for the other guy to press the action. This is running. There are varying degrees of running too. Dirrell was horrendous, for example
     
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  10. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    JMM elite cutting skills vs Derrick Gainer
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    JMM fails to cut the ring vs Chris John
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  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Johnny Nelson is the longest reigning world cruiserweight champion of all time
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To me it's mainly when they move constantly, whether backing up or lateral, while barely throwing at all. But the lack of throwing punches is the main part.
     
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  13. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Floyd clinched Manny over 20X over 12 rounds often times just because Manny got close. A competent referee would have given hard warnings and deducted points as holding is against the Queensbury Rules.
     
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    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Guys that are there to survive and have no intention of winning.