Gerald “the Gman” McClellan vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McClellan 6ft1, 78in
    Hagler 5ft9, 74in

    We never saw McClellan show his boxing skills because he fell in love with his punch, but he out-boxed Sugar Ray Leonard and Michael Moorer one after the other, in '88 in his first day at Kronk, so Steward said.
     
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  2. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton used to enter the ring at 165 as a super-lightweight
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You he didn't you liar!

    Hatton fought on HBO, which recorded night of weights, so we actually have proof. He was coming in the 150s, I remember.

    Go take your lies to a place where people DON'T watch boxing.
     
  4. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler had a 75’ reach, McClellan 77’. Boxrec has Gerald listed at 6’0 tall and Hagler at 5’9 1/2. I’ve heard some folks dispute that figure for Hagler, though, figuring him to be shorter by an inch or two. I’ve never really understood why.
     
  5. Bulldog24

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    HBO recorded 165. You have nothing better to do so I'll let you find it yourself, and then give me a public apology.
     
  6. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Steward spoke in hyperbole. He did it often. He was a story teller. Take his stuff with a grain of salt. Or don’t. Good luck convincing everyone else, though.
     
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  7. Bulldog24

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    That's true, he did out-box Liles and Littles in the amateurs, and beat Roy Jones. And set up that early knockdown of Sanderline beautifully (Toney couldn't) with the jab - only KD of SW's life.
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    Actually you may be right on Hatton. May of been the Collazo fight he was 165 instead of 160 or whatever.
     
  9. William Walker

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    don't be absurd; McClellan only has two knockouts over top contenders, and they were both over Jackson; Hagler knocked out tons of powerful, tough guys that were skilled
     
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  10. Xplosive

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    Gerald McClellan is one of the biggest myths in boxing history.

    The 200 pound wrecking ball who lost to Dennis Milton is demolishing Marvin Hagler inside a round, eh?
     
  11. Bulldog24

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  12. greynotsoold

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    By my "eye test" I always figured he was 180-185, which is still really big for the 160 pound champion.
    I don't think that there is any doubt that Michael Moorer, as 175 pound champion, was routinely entering the ring above 200 pounds.
    Kronk was way ahead of the pack when it came to manipulating and maximizing the advantage gained by rehydrating after the weigh in.
    Personally, based on what I have seen myself, a thirty pound swing would be a lot but not impossible. 38 pounds stretches my mind a bit but a very credible guy says he saw it. But I have seen several fighters- tall broad shouldered guys- put on 24, 25 pounds overnight, without access to the quality of nutritionists and s&c guys that Kronk would be using.
     
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  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Interesting match up, Hagler was pretty small for a middleweight while McClellan was one of the biggest in history. I really don’t think he was 200 pounds during fight night, he looked more like a light heavyweight in the ring, 180 looks about right.

    I can see hagler out landing Gerald by quite a large margin and cruising through a comfortable but painful decision since Gerald had a lot of flaws in his game that hagler could pickup on

    The other part of me thinks Gerald is far too big, quick, heavy handed, and stops hagler late while behind on points.

    These are the only two ways I see the fight going and I really don’t know which outcome I’d put my money on.
     
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  14. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Seriously, though. Think about these things before responding.

    You guys are telling me that McClellan just decided to drop 25-30 pounds every time he fought? For 6-8 rounders? When no title was on the line? When the opponent was a Super Middle or Lt. Heavy weighing in the 165-170 range? Why was he still weighing in at no more than 162-163 for those?

    Only twice prior to Benn did he ever weigh above 165. How is that? Surely he’d have had some blow ups in weight for random tune up fights. Think Eddie Mustafa Muhammad or Iran Barkley. If he was this behemoth you make him out to be why is there nothing even remotely close to proof?

    Even the eye test doesn’t come close to cutting it.
     
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  15. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In November of 1988 he fought 2 bouts in a span of 3 days, weighing 160 for the first and 160 1/4 for the second (though his opponent weighed 165). You’re telling me he did this entire dehydrate and rehydrate deal twice in that 3 day span and the end result was a difference of just 1/4 pound? Man, he must’ve had that **** down to a science!
     
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