Canelo vs Smith come to an agreement!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bigdog2002, Nov 11, 2020.


Who will win Canelo or Smith?

  1. Canelo will win

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  2. Smith will win

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  3. It will be a cagey, boring fight

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  4. It will be an exciting fight

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  1. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair, Beterbiev hardly ever fights!
     
  2. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ryder v Smith, yet another scoring disgrace.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Actually I wouldn't have jackass. I detest Plant and his style, and I've never been a fan. Whereas I've been a long time fan of Joh Ryder, I did thread of him on here almost 6 years ago, 5 years before most of you had ever heard of him, and I was the only guy on the site that said John would give hell to Callum and beat him. This has **** all to do with Canelo Alvarez, and everything to do with John Ryder. And for what it's worth, you completely MISSED the fact that I said that Canelo would KO Callum Smith easily, on paper and in the ring Callum is far better opponent than that clown Plant, who Canelo would brutally knockout. And it's credit DUE.
     
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  4. Xplosive

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    Callum will get beat up.
     
  5. Xplosive

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    Plant would pretty easily outbox that stiff oaf Callum.
     
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  6. CST80

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    What are basing that on? Plant's magnificent wins over two inept face first plodders? You do realize that Ryder beat Callum, for the very reason I said he would, he's a defensively excellent insider fighter, who cuts off the ring very well, and is an incredibly body puncher who excella at fighting bigger opponents. Plant literally fights nothing like Ryder, the only reason Smith suffered is due to a style clash with that particular fighter, it's not indicative of how he's perform against any one else. But for what it's worth, Callum would ravage someone with the style of Plant, which isn't all that special or unique.
     
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  7. Xplosive

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    I'd imagine it'd be hard for Callum to "ravage" anybody who's not a George Groves with one shoulder, and one foot in the grave.

    Even a non-world class fighter like Skoglund gave Smith problems, so you're the one who actually has zero evidence that indicates Smith would destroy Plant.

    Plant's never struggled in any of his career fights. You may not like him, but that doesn't excuse you basing Smith destroying him on.... well, nothing.
     
  8. Xplosive

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    Smith's a stiff, non-fluid guy with little variation or creativity in his style. Yes, he has power, I admit, but Plant hasn't shown any chin weakness. Plant has fast hands, fast defensive reflexes, an excellent jab, and better pop in his left hook than given credit for.

    His style is made to take apart a big stiff like Smith.

    Callum is easily the weakest link out of Canelo, Plant, and Benavidez.

    Berlanga will be ready to smoke him within a year too.
     
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  9. Stiff Jab

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    Virtually the entire board thought Ryder beat Callum Smith and were clamouring for Canelo to beat the **** out of Smith wtf are you talking about?
     
  10. CST80

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    Let's see Plant beat someone who's even close to the level of Groves before singing his praises. I mean, his best win is a guy that was schooled by Lionell Thompson. And it's awfully easy to neer struggle in one of your career fights if all you've had to face is trash competition that play to your strengths. But... for what it's worth. He didn't look all that hot against Awimbono. Who fights like a **** poor poor man's version of a poor man's version of John Ryder.
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    And in case you forgot... Uzcategui took 5 rounds off of him easily, maybe even 6. Those 2 knockdowns came in handy. I'd call that struggling.;)

    And Skoglund would beat Feigenbutz and Uzcategui with ease.
     
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  12. Xplosive

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    If you think Uzcat won 6 rounds off Plant I'd say you're taking your hate of Plant to an absurd level and being totally unobjective.

    If you give Uzcat EVERY benefit of the doubt, I could see 7-5... but 8-4 was far more realistic.

    And I'd take Uzcat to stop a one shoulder having, glass chinned Groves who was in his retirement fight.

    It'd still be nice if you would explain how Smith would "ravage" Plant.

    Plant's never been down, or even seriously hurt in his career.

    You may question his resume, but Callum's resume is hardly comprised of murderer's row.
     
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    Even if Berlanga fails to live up to his hype, he'd be an epic failure if he never passes the level of Smith.

    He just has to live up to maybe 60% of his hype to be a level above Smith.

    Callum isn't Andre Ward or Calzaghe.

    It's not gonna take a prodigy to beat him.
     
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  14. Shrollleftupper

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    I would beat Callum Smith.
     
  15. CST80

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    Most scorers on the RBR had it 5 rounds for Uzcategui, and many of them had no issue with Plant. And yeah, 6 rounds is perfectly acceptable, after the first half, Uzcategui ws in it to the final bell. I think it's you who needs to take you love goggles off. Plant is not special. As far as Smith ravaging Plant, since you're being an OCD ***** about it, whatever... he'll beat him, most likely by stoppage. Plant has never been down, because he's never faced a puncher with the skills to land on him repeatedly and clean.

    Smith doesn't have a great resume, I agree, but it's better than Plant's. And for what it's worth, I don' think Smith is special, which is why I think Canelo is going to batter him, but the same applies to Plant. But when it comes to these two hypejobs, Callum is more proven, has faced more diverse styles and has the slightly better resume, not to mention the longer reach, the height, the size and the edge in power.
     
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