Kell Brook “ I can make Crawford quit “

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  1. Scissors

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    Completely agree and thought as much pre fight.
     
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  2. bladesman

    bladesman Active Member Full Member

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    But...people were giving him s chance as he made the weight?!

    He was past his prime. It was always a cash out. Doing it on the cheap by cutting out his team and promotor too.
     
  3. boxberry92

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    I agree with this about Crawford.

    Although it is unlikely to happen, I'd like to see Crawford fight Porter next to gauge how good he actually is at Welterweight, because none of his other wins really standout or have improved with time.

    Gamboa, Indongo, Postal, Beltran and Burns were all beaten in subsequent fights when they stepped up to world level.

    Spence v Crawford is now becoming another Pacquaio v Mayweather scenario and by the time it actually happens Crawford will either be too old or Spence will be shot to pieces from the round robin series of fights with the other PBC Welterweights.
     
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  4. finzwinz

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    There was good reason that Hatton spent so long defending the WBU against sub par fighters. They wanted to maximise the cash they made before he was exposed, which he was. Hatton was a very good fighter, but nowhere near the elite. If it wasn’t mayweather or Pac-Man that smashed him to pieces, it would have been Cotto (who was on the radar for about 5 years). He was around collazo level, as shown when collazo arguably defeated him.

    no shame in fooling the public with the WBU until enough money is made. I remember Hatton trying to claim WBU was a legitimate title tho, which is very shameful!
     
  5. murphman22

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    this is just nonsense after timing to be honest. Hatton followed the same route as a lot of UK boxers (before and after) who win belts and fight weaker opposition. You could argue that Calzgahe done exactly the same but he didn’t do too badly at the end. A lot of it is the product of fighting in a smaller pool and being able to maximise income. It’s frustrating for fans but it no way was it because they knew Hatton would be exposed. He lost to Floyd and PAC FFS.

    With regards to Brook - a lot of poor words on here today. He got beaten and unfortunately it was the end result of some poor matchmaking as well as outside life choices, which Brook needs to be accountable for. Again after the Porter win he was a world class welter, I think you could have thrown him in with anyone in and around his weight class. I thought he had a chance last night and looked ok for the first 3 rounds but the punch resistance has gone. Whether he was shot or more like the weight cut to 147 finally got to him in that department. He’s never been hurt like that before with one shot. Sad ending to an ultimately decent career but one that leaves more questions than answers about how good he could have been.
     
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  6. Work the body

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    Brook was boxing nicely. Crawford just too good.
     
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  7. Trafford

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    Smart move to a degree if you are cashing out. Fair play to Matchroom not kicking up a stink aswell. Other than after Kell kicked off.
    Lot of promoters would have wanted their piece
     
  8. boxberry92

    boxberry92 Active Member Full Member

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    It's arguable that the Ricky Hatton who beat Kostas Tszyu would have beaten Miguel Cotto at 140ilbs, whilst Hatton was beating Tszyu in 2005, Cotto was struggling with weight and going life and death with Ricardo Torres.

    That was Frank Warren principle though, he has always been very good at building long unbeaten records for his top prospects whilst taking minimal risks. George Collins was the classic example, but he did the same with Hatton, Calzaghe, Brook and to a certain extent Naz.
     
  9. Twentyman

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    Hatton is another example of world class. I think one of the things what makes a fighter elite is their adaptability to different styles of opponent. They just seem to have a look at their opponents, get a feel for what they’re doing then start going through the gears.
     
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  10. Bent-nose

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    He was offered the Junior Witter fight enough times when under the same promoter. He even claimed on TV that he had the Witter fight written into his contract.
     
  11. Jurgen

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    All of the lights - went out a long time ago.

    The Special Done proved he is not bad at a Chess Contest for 9 minutes then folded at first meaningful punch landing.

    Shades of Warrior Tony Bellew fighting Adonis Stevenson all over again.

    Amir Con v Shell Brook for the PPV Loot Bragging Rights coming soon for the finale.
     
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  12. Jurgen

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    Alcohol certainly blurs rationale thinking
     
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  13. Oneirokritis

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    Told you it would happen.
     
  14. Jurgen

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    Burns is good at skipping away from conflict - made a career of it since the Beltran fight including two of the tamest title defences ever seen.
     
  15. Jurgen

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    I wish he did - the cohort of PPV Mugths need a regular shafting to wake them up.
     
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